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  • MikM Mik

    @taiwan_girl said in If electric cars have to pay road taxes...:

    The way to go on taxing electric cars is to switch to a universal tax on miles driven.

    Use odometer reading. Now, I realize that this would only work on an overall federal level, since you would not know where people are driving, then impossible to break it down by state and local.

    Other alternative would be to have the tax built into the charging station. Most people are not going to plug there car into a regular house socket (though of course some will). But, regular charging stations, whether in public or in your garage would have an add on cost for the electricity when charging that would be the equivalent to the gas tax.

    Miles driven is invasive and corruptible, plus it might cost more to administer than it would take in. Tax at charging station is the only real solution. We already pay a plethora of taxes on home electricity.

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    @Mik There should be a way to make things work, however it is done.

    Maybe recognize if the resident voltage is >220V, there would be an extra charge. I dont think that any things in the house normally run above 220V

    I dont know, just putting ideas out there. Because using only the gas tax will not work long term.

    I dont think an extra price on the cost of an electric car is fair - with cars, I think the more you drive, the more you should pay a usage fee.

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      I'm happy for them to put a tax on the electrical charging point for bicycles, too.

      I was only joking

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        Well, lots of ebikes on the road today.

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @Mik There should be a way to make things work, however it is done.

          Maybe recognize if the resident voltage is >220V, there would be an extra charge. I dont think that any things in the house normally run above 220V

          I dont know, just putting ideas out there. Because using only the gas tax will not work long term.

          I dont think an extra price on the cost of an electric car is fair - with cars, I think the more you drive, the more you should pay a usage fee.

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          @taiwan_girl said in If electric cars have to pay road taxes...:

          @Mik There should be a way to make things work, however it is done.

          Maybe recognize if the resident voltage is >220V, there would be an extra charge. I dont think that any things in the house normally run above 220V

          I dont know, just putting ideas out there. Because using only the gas tax will not work long term.

          I dont think an extra price on the cost of an electric car is fair - with cars, I think the more you drive, the more you should pay a usage fee.

          Electric ranges and dryers both run 220, at least here.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            If we're taxing cyclists, why not pedestrians?

            In the unlikely event that an American ventures outdoors without the security afforded by his car, he should be made to pay!

            I was only joking

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              Just keep the bike off my road

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              • MikM Away
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                  @Mik pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    If we're taxing cyclists, why not pedestrians?

                    In the unlikely event that an American ventures outdoors without the security afforded by his car, he should be made to pay!

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in If electric cars have to pay road taxes...:

                    If we're taxing cyclists, why not pedestrians?

                    So ... counting steps?
                    Or maybe just add a tax to shoes and replacement soles?

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Secondly, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. You know very well the government has the right to license bicycles and they have the right to make some of them or all of them pay a road use tax.

                      True or false?

                      No fucking equivocations or coulda, woulda, shoulda, just a simple yes or no is sufficient.

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                      @Jolly said in If electric cars have to pay road taxes...:

                      Secondly, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. You know very well the government has the right to license bicycles and they have the right to make some of them or all of them pay a road use tax.

                      True or false?

                      No fucking equivocations or coulda, woulda, shoulda, just a simple yes or no is sufficient.

                      Show us the principled argument for taxing bicycles on public thoroughfares that wouldn’t apply to pedestrians using streets and sidewalks.

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