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Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Axtremus said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

    Charlie Baker’s response:

    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/gov-baker-announces-coordinated-support-for-migrants-flown-to-marthas-vineyard/2836498/

    Charlie Baker is Massachusetts’ Governor who, like DeSantis, is also a Republican.

    Good for him. Now see him contend with the thousands sent to Florida.

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    George K
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    #96

    @LuFins-Dad said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

    Now see him contend with the thousands sent to Florida.

    Something tells me that Massachusetts will weather the storm of 50 illegal aliens.

    Is Massachusetts a sanctuary state? I know Florida isn't.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Fuck this. Desantis and Abbott are doing a hell of a lot more to help these people than the administration and the good leaders of the Vineyard, Chicago, DC, and California are. Cynically fucking with the migrants? That's what the left is doing. Sweeping them under the carpet, hiding them by the thousands in cities around the United States and letting them free in communities and populace that are unaware and unprepared to assist them. All that happens then is these people drift into the shadows of society where they are prey or predators by necessity. That's fucking cruel.

      Instead, Abbott and Desantis are publicly sending them to communities that very loudly and publicly said they would welcome them and provide them sanctuary. Great. Here they are. And by doing so publicly we are having this conversation. People are aware of the thousands of migrants suffering and the hundreds of communities suffering because of the failed border and immigration policies. This conversation may or may not lead to positive and lasting change, but at least we are talking about it, and that's the first step. Both sides are using these people to score political points, but at least Desantis and Abbot's approach can actually lead to people addressing the problem.

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      #97

      @LuFins-Dad said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

      Fuck this. Desantis and Abbott are doing a hell of a lot more to help these people than the administration and the good leaders of the Vineyard, Chicago, DC, and California are. Cynically fucking with the migrants? That's what the left is doing. Sweeping them under the carpet, hiding them by the thousands in cities around the United States and letting them free in communities and populace that are unaware and unprepared to assist them. All that happens then is these people drift into the shadows of society where they are prey or predators by necessity. That's fucking cruel.

      Instead, Abbott and Desantis are publicly sending them to communities that very loudly and publicly said they would welcome them and provide them sanctuary. Great. Here they are. And by doing so publicly we are having this conversation. People are aware of the thousands of migrants suffering and the hundreds of communities suffering because of the failed border and immigration policies. This conversation may or may not lead to positive and lasting change, but at least we are talking about it, and that's the first step. Both sides are using these people to score political points, but at least Desantis and Abbot's approach can actually lead to people addressing the problem.

      I agree with @LuFins-Dad

      This has ramped up the conversation. From my view, it seems that both sides do a lot talking with bandage approach that maybe feel good for a little bit, but do little to solve the root cause of the problem

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        Easy to complain about situations in other areas until they effect you.

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        @taiwan_girl said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

        Easy to complain about situations in other areas until they effect you.

        All politics are local.

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        • George KG George K

          @LuFins-Dad said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

          Now see him contend with the thousands sent to Florida.

          Something tells me that Massachusetts will weather the storm of 50 illegal aliens.

          Is Massachusetts a sanctuary state? I know Florida isn't.

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          #99

          @George-K said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

          Is Massachusetts a sanctuary state? I know Florida isn't.

          https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/sanctuary-cities-massachusetts-migrants-marthas-vineyard/

          Massachusetts is not a sanctuary state, but there have been proposals for it on Beacon Hill. A sanctuary city or state is a location that limits cooperation with federal immigration laws. There are eight cities in the state that are sanctuary cities. They are Amherst, Boston, Cambridge, Chelsea, Concord, Newton, Northampton, and Somerville. What they do is legal, and how much they cooperate can vary from city to city.

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          • CopperC Copper

            @George-K said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

            Is Massachusetts a sanctuary state? I know Florida isn't.

            https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/sanctuary-cities-massachusetts-migrants-marthas-vineyard/

            Massachusetts is not a sanctuary state, but there have been proposals for it on Beacon Hill. A sanctuary city or state is a location that limits cooperation with federal immigration laws. There are eight cities in the state that are sanctuary cities. They are Amherst, Boston, Cambridge, Chelsea, Concord, Newton, Northampton, and Somerville. What they do is legal, and how much they cooperate can vary from city to city.

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            @Copper thanks.

            Send 'em to Cambridge.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @Copper thanks.

              Send 'em to Cambridge.

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              #101

              @George-K said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

              @Copper thanks.

              Send 'em to Cambridge.

              Harvard would love to have them.

              A school like that needs a lot of undocumenteds to handle the landscaping.

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                Martha’s Vineyard is a Sanctuary “Destination” according to their borough leadership in 2018.

                The Brad

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                  Big sanctuary.

                  One illegal stayed. The rest left.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Likely a teen girl. A pretty one.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Likely a teen girl. A pretty one.

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                      @Mik said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                      Likely a teen girl. A pretty one.

                      Or, one with a leaf blower (see my post from earlier).

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        #106

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Mik said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                          Likely a teen girl. A pretty one.

                          Or, one with a leaf blower (see my post from earlier).

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                          @George-K said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                          @Mik said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                          Likely a teen girl. A pretty one.

                          Or, one with a leaf blower (see my post from earlier).

                          Blowing was involved one way or the other.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            #108

                            One thing that seems to be missed in the reporting, or at least the memes, is that the glitterati had left by the time he did this. What you had mostly were the year round residents who are far more ‘normal’

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Axtremus
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                              #109

                              https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article266044016.html

                              Texas sheriff will investigate Florida flying Venezuelan migrants to Martha's Vineyard
                              September 19, 2022 06:05 PM

                              San Antonio, Texas — Authorities in Texas have opened a criminal investigation into Gov. Ron DeSantis’ operation to fly roughly 50 Venezuela migrants from Texas to Martha’s Vineyard last week.

                              Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar said in a news release Monday that his office is investigating whether the migrants were the victims of a crime.
                              ...

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                                #110

                                For those of you who are against what the governors of Texas and Florida did - why are you against it?

                                My opinion is that the immigration issue is a national issue and not a state issue.

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                                  #111

                                  @Axtremus said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                                  https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article266044016.html

                                  Texas sheriff will investigate Florida flying Venezuelan migrants to Martha's Vineyard

                                  He has a history of investigating activities which might not criminal.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Sounds like a jurisdiction issue. What business does a Texas sheriff have investigating Florida activities?

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Sounds like a jurisdiction issue. What business does a Texas sheriff have investigating Florida activities?

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                                      George K
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                                      #113

                                      @Mik said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                                      Sounds like a jurisdiction issue. What business does a Texas sheriff have investigating Florida activities?

                                      One could say, "What business does a Florida governor have moving people out of Texas to Massachusetts?"

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        One thing that seems to be missed in the reporting, or at least the memes, is that the glitterati had left by the time he did this. What you had mostly were the year round residents who are far more ‘normal’

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                                        One thing that seems to be missed in the reporting, or at least the memes, is that the glitterati had left by the time he did this. What you had mostly were the year round residents who are far more ‘normal’

                                        Well, that brings up a huge point. MV said they didn't have the facilities to house illegals.

                                        Bullshit.

                                        They had hundreds of empty houses.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          #115

                                          Class action lawsuit filed by transported migrants against DeSantis and other state officials:

                                          https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22483908-desantis-migrants-lawsuit

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