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Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    The distinction, which to me is critical, is the Venezuelans were lied to and used as a means to a political end.

    When Abbot sent buses to DC, NY, and Chicago the people who boarded them knew where they were going and chose to go there. Same with Newsome.

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    George K
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    #87

    @jon-nyc said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

    The distinction, which to me is critical, is the Venezuelans were lied to

    https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/16/migrants-desantis-vineyard-massachusetts/?utm_medium=push&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
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      #88

      As the article says, many of them said they were going to Boston. Perhaps they should have read the flight docs and seen Martha’s Vineyard written there. I’m sure every Venezuelan campesino has heard of it.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #89

        Who will be the first (media outlet, not counting me) to say the illegals might be harmed by Pave Paws radiation?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAVE_PAWS

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          As the article says, many of them said they were going to Boston. Perhaps they should have read the flight docs and seen Martha’s Vineyard written there. I’m sure every Venezuelan campesino has heard of it.

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          LuFins Dad
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          #90

          @jon-nyc said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

          As the article says, many of them said they were going to Boston. Perhaps they should have read the flight docs and seen Martha’s Vineyard written there. I’m sure every Venezuelan campesino has heard of it.

          No, the article stated several of the migrants said they were told that they could go to Boston. That’s a different thing than being told they were going to Boston. It’s a $30 bus ride from Falmouth to Boston and a $5 ferry fee…

          I could easily see them being told they were going to Martha’s Vineyard, some of them asking “where is that?” and being told that it’s a little south of Boston…

          The Brad

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            #91

            Miami Venezuelans’ reactions:

            https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article265860501.html

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              Miami Venezuelans’ reactions:

              https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article265860501.html

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              @Axtremus said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

              Miami Venezuelans’ reactions:

              https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article265860501.html

              The Governor gave a gift to everyone involved.

              What a breath of fresh air.

              He was willing to do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may.

              Good for him.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
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                #93

                Trying to do what Trump tried - force Congress to DO THEIR JOB. in fairness, I believe Obama tried as well.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Charlie Baker’s response:

                  https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/gov-baker-announces-coordinated-support-for-migrants-flown-to-marthas-vineyard/2836498/

                  Charlie Baker is Massachusetts’ Governor who, like DeSantis, is also a Republican.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    Charlie Baker’s response:

                    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/gov-baker-announces-coordinated-support-for-migrants-flown-to-marthas-vineyard/2836498/

                    Charlie Baker is Massachusetts’ Governor who, like DeSantis, is also a Republican.

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                    @Axtremus said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                    Charlie Baker’s response:

                    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/gov-baker-announces-coordinated-support-for-migrants-flown-to-marthas-vineyard/2836498/

                    Charlie Baker is Massachusetts’ Governor who, like DeSantis, is also a Republican.

                    Good for him. Now see him contend with the thousands sent to Florida.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @Axtremus said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                      Charlie Baker’s response:

                      https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/gov-baker-announces-coordinated-support-for-migrants-flown-to-marthas-vineyard/2836498/

                      Charlie Baker is Massachusetts’ Governor who, like DeSantis, is also a Republican.

                      Good for him. Now see him contend with the thousands sent to Florida.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                      Now see him contend with the thousands sent to Florida.

                      Something tells me that Massachusetts will weather the storm of 50 illegal aliens.

                      Is Massachusetts a sanctuary state? I know Florida isn't.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Fuck this. Desantis and Abbott are doing a hell of a lot more to help these people than the administration and the good leaders of the Vineyard, Chicago, DC, and California are. Cynically fucking with the migrants? That's what the left is doing. Sweeping them under the carpet, hiding them by the thousands in cities around the United States and letting them free in communities and populace that are unaware and unprepared to assist them. All that happens then is these people drift into the shadows of society where they are prey or predators by necessity. That's fucking cruel.

                        Instead, Abbott and Desantis are publicly sending them to communities that very loudly and publicly said they would welcome them and provide them sanctuary. Great. Here they are. And by doing so publicly we are having this conversation. People are aware of the thousands of migrants suffering and the hundreds of communities suffering because of the failed border and immigration policies. This conversation may or may not lead to positive and lasting change, but at least we are talking about it, and that's the first step. Both sides are using these people to score political points, but at least Desantis and Abbot's approach can actually lead to people addressing the problem.

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                        Fuck this. Desantis and Abbott are doing a hell of a lot more to help these people than the administration and the good leaders of the Vineyard, Chicago, DC, and California are. Cynically fucking with the migrants? That's what the left is doing. Sweeping them under the carpet, hiding them by the thousands in cities around the United States and letting them free in communities and populace that are unaware and unprepared to assist them. All that happens then is these people drift into the shadows of society where they are prey or predators by necessity. That's fucking cruel.

                        Instead, Abbott and Desantis are publicly sending them to communities that very loudly and publicly said they would welcome them and provide them sanctuary. Great. Here they are. And by doing so publicly we are having this conversation. People are aware of the thousands of migrants suffering and the hundreds of communities suffering because of the failed border and immigration policies. This conversation may or may not lead to positive and lasting change, but at least we are talking about it, and that's the first step. Both sides are using these people to score political points, but at least Desantis and Abbot's approach can actually lead to people addressing the problem.

                        I agree with @LuFins-Dad

                        This has ramped up the conversation. From my view, it seems that both sides do a lot talking with bandage approach that maybe feel good for a little bit, but do little to solve the root cause of the problem

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          Easy to complain about situations in other areas until they effect you.

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                          @taiwan_girl said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                          Easy to complain about situations in other areas until they effect you.

                          All politics are local.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                            Now see him contend with the thousands sent to Florida.

                            Something tells me that Massachusetts will weather the storm of 50 illegal aliens.

                            Is Massachusetts a sanctuary state? I know Florida isn't.

                            CopperC Offline
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                            @George-K said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                            Is Massachusetts a sanctuary state? I know Florida isn't.

                            https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/sanctuary-cities-massachusetts-migrants-marthas-vineyard/

                            Massachusetts is not a sanctuary state, but there have been proposals for it on Beacon Hill. A sanctuary city or state is a location that limits cooperation with federal immigration laws. There are eight cities in the state that are sanctuary cities. They are Amherst, Boston, Cambridge, Chelsea, Concord, Newton, Northampton, and Somerville. What they do is legal, and how much they cooperate can vary from city to city.

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @George-K said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                              Is Massachusetts a sanctuary state? I know Florida isn't.

                              https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/sanctuary-cities-massachusetts-migrants-marthas-vineyard/

                              Massachusetts is not a sanctuary state, but there have been proposals for it on Beacon Hill. A sanctuary city or state is a location that limits cooperation with federal immigration laws. There are eight cities in the state that are sanctuary cities. They are Amherst, Boston, Cambridge, Chelsea, Concord, Newton, Northampton, and Somerville. What they do is legal, and how much they cooperate can vary from city to city.

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                              George K
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                              @Copper thanks.

                              Send 'em to Cambridge.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Copper thanks.

                                Send 'em to Cambridge.

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                                #101

                                @George-K said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                                @Copper thanks.

                                Send 'em to Cambridge.

                                Harvard would love to have them.

                                A school like that needs a lot of undocumenteds to handle the landscaping.

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  Martha’s Vineyard is a Sanctuary “Destination” according to their borough leadership in 2018.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Big sanctuary.

                                    One illegal stayed. The rest left.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Likely a teen girl. A pretty one.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Likely a teen girl. A pretty one.

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                                        @Mik said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

                                        Likely a teen girl. A pretty one.

                                        Or, one with a leaf blower (see my post from earlier).

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
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                                          #106

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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