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Northwestern transplants a woman who’s lungs were destroyed by Covid

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    Check out the photo of the old lungs.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/health/coronavirus-lung-transplant.html?

    The tone of the article is like she’s out of the woods. She’s not.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      Oh, Loki - 20s, none.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Be interesting to keep up with this case...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Check out the photo of the old lungs.

          https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/health/coronavirus-lung-transplant.html?

          The tone of the article is like she’s out of the woods. She’s not.

          MikM Away
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            I've seen lots and lots of lungs, healthy and not healthy. Those are, indeed the worst looking lungs ever. The fact that it was adherent to the pleura must've made for a horrible dissection.

            Yeah, the x-ray is impressive AF too.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              If the disease doesn't do that to 99.99% of people who get the disease, is it the disease that did it?

              Education is extremely important.

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                If the disease doesn't do that to 99.99% of people who get the disease, is it the disease that did it?

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                @Horace good question. A combination of factors, I assume.

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                  Blood type?

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Oh, Loki - 20s, none.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Northwestern transplants a woman who’s lungs were destroyed by Covid:

                    Oh, Loki - 20s, none.

                    Hi. My god, that lung.

                    It’s quite a statement to say she was healthy and then to say this happened. I mean if it didn’t happen to others what is the explanation? I will leave it to doctors to say either, well, this can happen in very rare circumstances, these we don’t understand Or there is something about her that we haven’t figured out yet.

                    The odds are the odds and I did see that if you are 15 your odds are 10,000 times better than if you are 80. So no, it can’t strike anyone- unless your definition is that if anyone gets it than anyone can get it.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Northwestern transplants a woman who’s lungs were destroyed by Covid:

                      Oh, Loki - 20s, none.

                      Hi. My god, that lung.

                      It’s quite a statement to say she was healthy and then to say this happened. I mean if it didn’t happen to others what is the explanation? I will leave it to doctors to say either, well, this can happen in very rare circumstances, these we don’t understand Or there is something about her that we haven’t figured out yet.

                      The odds are the odds and I did see that if you are 15 your odds are 10,000 times better than if you are 80. So no, it can’t strike anyone- unless your definition is that if anyone gets it than anyone can get it.

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                      @Loki said in Northwestern transplants a woman who’s lungs were destroyed by Covid:

                      unless your definition is that if anyone gets it than anyone can get it.

                      That's our current understanding. It's literally that. There are some things we know about that affect the odds, but clearly there are many more unknowns that affect them more. I think chances are we'll figure them out in time, but drawing conclusions like "she was secretly unhealthy" because it doesn't fit our extremely vague understanding of the disease is silly.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        There was at least one other Covid-caused bilateral lung transplant performed in China early this year. There was a paper on it in Medrxiv a while ago.

                        Yeah I track 'lung transplant and covid', though mainly to follow write ups about people who get Covid post-tx.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Surely we know about most if not all of the cases of this. What percentage of infections result in this? Do we ever see this in people not infected by covid?

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Surely we know about most if not all of the cases of this. What percentage of infections result in this? Do we ever see this in people not infected by covid?

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                            @Horace said in Northwestern transplants a woman who’s lungs were destroyed by Covid:

                            Surely we know about most if not all of the cases of this. What percentage of infections result in this? Do we ever see this in people not infected by covid?

                            It sounds like want the virus not to be responsible.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              I just recognize the rhetorical punch stories of destroyed organs have, and am wondering whether that punch is a sucker punch. I mean you could increase the death count by 1 or 2 or whatever number of people had their lungs destroyed and it wouldn't matter but this story has value. So I wonder if it's in any way actually important to people's risk assessment.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Maybe the transplant team at Northwestern is in on the hoax.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Maybe she'd drunk bleach?

                                  I was only joking

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                                    I'm thinking windmill cancer.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Maybe the transplant team at Northwestern is in on the hoax.

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                                      Mik
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Northwestern transplants a woman who’s lungs were destroyed by Covid:

                                      Maybe the transplant team at Northwestern is in on the hoax.

                                      Must be it.

                                      We still know very little about it.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Maybe the transplant team at Northwestern is in on the hoax.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Northwestern transplants a woman who’s lungs were destroyed by Covid:

                                        Maybe the transplant team at Northwestern is in on the hoax.

                                        I see your sensitivity to straw man arguments is strictly one way. Good to know.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @Horace said in Northwestern transplants a woman who’s lungs were destroyed by Covid:

                                          Surely we know about most if not all of the cases of this. What percentage of infections result in this? Do we ever see this in people not infected by covid?

                                          It sounds like want the virus not to be responsible.

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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Northwestern transplants a woman who’s lungs were destroyed by Covid:

                                          @Horace said in Northwestern transplants a woman who’s lungs were destroyed by Covid:

                                          Surely we know about most if not all of the cases of this. What percentage of infections result in this? Do we ever see this in people not infected by covid?

                                          It sounds like want the virus not to be responsible.

                                          No but it’s helpful for a young person to know for example if the odds approximate winning the lottery or being hit by lightening. It’s important for the young to think like scientists and understand what to be concerned with, right?

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