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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 09:16 last edited by
    #36

    Ugh. Just read about a bloodstained toddler found among his dead parents. He’s unhurt but orphaned by this whack job.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    • J Jolly
      5 Jul 2022, 22:11

      BTW, was it ever determined if he was Antifa or a sympathizer?

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 11:35 last edited by
      #37

      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

      BTW, was it ever determined if he was Antifa or a sympathizer?

      The interviews I heard this morning indicated that he didn't seem to have a political ideology.

      I was only joking

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        Jolly
        wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 11:42 last edited by
        #38

        One more time...

        We've always had firearms. We've had magazine fed, centerfire, semi-autos readily available since the early 1900's for pistols and the 1950's for rifles.

        Why have mass shootings become so commonplace today?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Mik
          wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:03 last edited by
          #39

          Isolation and powerlessness.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:11 last edited by
            #40

            Overcrowding. Cumulative effects of poor nutrition creating brain imbalances not readily apparent to outsiders until -- boom.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:51 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Jun 2022, 12:52
              #41

              Why do mass shootings appear to be so much more common in the USA?

              I know there are examples of it happening elsewhere, but it certainly seems like this is particularly a problem here.

              It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

              I was only joking

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                George K
                wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:51 last edited by
                #42

                I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  6 Jul 2022, 12:51

                  I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:53 last edited by
                  #43

                  @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                  I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                  Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                  I was only joking

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    6 Jul 2022, 12:53

                    @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                    I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                    Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:55 last edited by
                    #44

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                    @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                    I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                    Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                    Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                    Is he right about the drugs?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      6 Jul 2022, 12:55

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                      @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                      I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                      Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                      Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                      Is he right about the drugs?

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:56 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Jun 2022, 12:57
                      #45

                      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                      @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                      I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                      Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                      Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                      Is he right about the drugs?

                      I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

                      Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                      I was only joking

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        6 Jul 2022, 12:51

                        Why do mass shootings appear to be so much more common in the USA?

                        I know there are examples of it happening elsewhere, but it certainly seems like this is particularly a problem here.

                        It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

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                        Catseye3
                        wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:56 last edited by
                        #46

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                        It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

                        Gun culture. America kind of grew up with guns. Maybe guns are in our DNA. That is, when frustration arises, Americans are quicker to look to their guns as problem solvers than other countries or cultures, because guns have always been there.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • C Catseye3
                          6 Jul 2022, 12:56

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                          It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

                          Gun culture. America kind of grew up with guns. Maybe guns are in our DNA. That is, when frustration arises, Americans are quicker to look to their guns as problem solvers than other countries or cultures, because guns have always been there.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:58 last edited by
                          #47

                          @Catseye3 said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                          It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

                          Gun culture. America kind of grew up with guns. Maybe guns are in our DNA. That is, when frustration arises, Americans are quicker to look to their guns as problem solvers than other countries or cultures, because guns have always been there.

                          That's clearly one answer. There might be other things, too.

                          I was only joking

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                            George K
                            wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:59 last edited by
                            #48

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                            Link to video

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • C Catseye3
                              6 Jul 2022, 12:56

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                              It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

                              Gun culture. America kind of grew up with guns. Maybe guns are in our DNA. That is, when frustration arises, Americans are quicker to look to their guns as problem solvers than other countries or cultures, because guns have always been there.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 13:20 last edited by Jolly 7 Jun 2022, 13:22
                              #49

                              @Catseye3 said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                              It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

                              Gun culture. America kind of grew up with guns. Maybe guns are in our DNA. That is, when frustration arises, Americans are quicker to look to their guns as problem solvers than other countries or cultures, because guns have always been there.

                              I would say so, but much of the rural South is awash in firearms. I'm not talking two or three, I'm talking eight or ten, common. Twenty doesn't even raise an eyebrow.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                6 Jul 2022, 12:56

                                @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                                Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                                Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                                Is he right about the drugs?

                                I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

                                Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 13:28 last edited by
                                #50

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                                Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                                Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                                Is he right about the drugs?

                                I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

                                Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                And to put it very bluntly, if you don't think we have a problem medicating children at the rate we are now, you are simply not aware of the problem or are choosing to willfully ignore it.

                                I think that the over-medication problem is a fact. The question is whether it is a contributing factor to mass shootings.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • J Jolly
                                  6 Jul 2022, 13:28

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                  @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                  @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                  I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                                  Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                                  Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                                  Is he right about the drugs?

                                  I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

                                  Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                  Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                  And to put it very bluntly, if you don't think we have a problem medicating children at the rate we are now, you are simply not aware of the problem or are choosing to willfully ignore it.

                                  I think that the over-medication problem is a fact. The question is whether it is a contributing factor to mass shootings.

                                  AxtremusA Away
                                  AxtremusA Away
                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 13:56 last edited by
                                  #51

                                  @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                  Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                  Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                  And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
                                  See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

                                  Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus
                                    6 Jul 2022, 13:56

                                    @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                    Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                    And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
                                    See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

                                    Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 15:09 last edited by
                                    #52

                                    @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                    Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                    And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
                                    See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

                                    Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

                                    You can cherry-pick anything. I can cobble up enough of your dribble to convince folks that you are a lying prick with no social graces whatsoever. If anybody talks long enough and addresses any controversial subject, anybody can be accused of such.

                                    Tucker is on the air five days a week, one hour per day. More on Fox Nation.

                                    If he's wrong 5% of the time, that means he's right 95%.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • J Jolly
                                      6 Jul 2022, 15:09

                                      @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                      Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                      And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
                                      See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

                                      Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

                                      You can cherry-pick anything. I can cobble up enough of your dribble to convince folks that you are a lying prick with no social graces whatsoever. If anybody talks long enough and addresses any controversial subject, anybody can be accused of such.

                                      Tucker is on the air five days a week, one hour per day. More on Fox Nation.

                                      If he's wrong 5% of the time, that means he's right 95%.

                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 15:51 last edited by
                                      #53

                                      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                      Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                      And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
                                      See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

                                      Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

                                      You can cherry-pick anything. I can cobble up enough of your dribble to convince folks that you are a lying prick with no social graces whatsoever. If anybody talks long enough and addresses any controversial subject, anybody can be accused of such.

                                      Tucker is on the air five days a week, one hour per day. More on Fox Nation.

                                      If he's wrong 5% of the time, that means he's right 95%.

                                      The stats say his claims are 89% “mostly false,” “false,” and “pants on fire.”

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                                        mark
                                        wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 15:53 last edited by
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                                        If I had a any proclivity toward being a hermit before, all of this crap makes it seem like the correct attitude in our "modern, civilized" world.

                                        Last night, I moved the .45ACP into a more strategic location, along with a few magazines full of Hornady, Critical Defense rounds. It was too close to an entry door for my liking. The .22 is also in a nice strategic place. In all my 60 years of life, I have never had even a hint of activity that would require me to defend myself with a gun.

                                        I loved the science of ammo, guns, with typical gear-head like enthusiasm. I no longer have any of that enthusiasm, but I am glad I own a few guns. Still need to get that shotgun I have been talking about for a few years.

                                        In our "modern, civilized" world.

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          6 Jul 2022, 12:51

                                          Why do mass shootings appear to be so much more common in the USA?

                                          I know there are examples of it happening elsewhere, but it certainly seems like this is particularly a problem here.

                                          It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 15:56 last edited by
                                          #55

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                          Why do mass shootings appear to be so much more common in the USA?

                                          Because the other countries that have way more mass shootings than us report them in Spanish, we don't understand.

                                          And we don't really care about those countries.

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