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Roe & Casey overturned.

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    George K
    wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 14:19 last edited by George K
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    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf

    https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/supreme-court-overturns-constitutional-right-to-abortion/

    he Supreme Court on Friday eliminated the constitutional right to obtain an abortion, casting aside 49 years of precedent that began with Roe v. Wade.

    The 6-3 decision by Justice Samuel Alito will set off a seismic shift in reproductive rights across the United States. It will allow states to ban abortion, and experts expect about half the states to do so.

    In one of the most anticipated rulings in decades, the court overturned Roe, which first declared a constitutional right to abortion in 1973, and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, which re-affirmed that right in 1992. The decision followed the leak in early May of a draft opinion showing that a majority of the justices were privately poised to take that step. On Friday, they made it official.

    The decision came in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, a challenge to a Mississippi law, passed in 2018, that bans virtually all abortions after the 15th week of pregnancy. The law carves out exceptions for medical emergencies and cases involving a “severe fetal abnormality” but does not make exceptions for cases involving rape or incest. It has never gone into effect, however, because the lower courts – including the conservative U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit – blocked the state from enforcing the law. [fill in day of week, possessive] decision reversed those rulings and upheld the law.

    But by overturning Roe and Casey, the decision also opens the door for states to enact far more dramatic abortion restrictions, including outright bans on the procedure. Mississippi itself has indicated that it will enforce a different state law, passed in 2007, that prohibits virtually all abortions, except to save the life of the mother or in cases involving rape. A dozen other states have passed similar legislation, known as “trigger laws” because they were drafted to go into effect if Roe and Casey were overturned. An analysis by the Guttmacher Institute predicts that 26 states are likely to ban all or nearly all abortions.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 14:33 last edited by
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      Wow. Let the riots begin.

      It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        24 Jun 2022, 14:33

        Wow. Let the riots begin.

        It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

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        George K
        wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 14:37 last edited by
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        @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

        Wow. Let the riots begin.

        It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

        And the gun ruling a day earlier. I question the timing, LOL.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • M Mik
          24 Jun 2022, 14:33

          Wow. Let the riots begin.

          It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

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          Copper
          wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 15:02 last edited by
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          @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

          It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

          They'll have a lot more lives to matter now.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 15:03 last edited by
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            I think the fact that it leaked in May will help blunt the reaction. Some of steam has been released already.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • G George K
              24 Jun 2022, 14:37

              @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

              Wow. Let the riots begin.

              It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

              And the gun ruling a day earlier. I question the timing, LOL.

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              George K
              wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 16:00 last edited by
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              @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

              And the gun ruling a day earlier. I question the timing, LOL.

              Let the memes begin.

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 16:04 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  24 Jun 2022, 16:04

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 16:22 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  Trump used every legal tool at his disposal to dispute the results of the 2020 election.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • G George K
                    24 Jun 2022, 14:37

                    @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    Wow. Let the riots begin.

                    It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

                    And the gun ruling a day earlier. I question the timing, LOL.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 16:25 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    Wow. Let the riots begin.

                    It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

                    And the gun ruling a day earlier. I question the timing, LOL.

                    Anyone denied a cc permit under the ny law would still have to reapply so the timing doesn’t really matter.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • H Horace
                      24 Jun 2022, 16:22

                      @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      Trump used every legal tool at his disposal to dispute the results of the 2020 election.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 16:26 last edited by
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                      @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      Trump used every legal tool at his disposal to dispute the results of the 2020 election.

                      And then some.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • J jon-nyc
                        24 Jun 2022, 16:26

                        @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        Trump used every legal tool at his disposal to dispute the results of the 2020 election.

                        And then some.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 16:30 last edited by Horace
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                        @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        Trump used every legal tool at his disposal to dispute the results of the 2020 election.

                        And then some.

                        The only reason he’s not in prison is the pro-Trump bias in the media and justice dept.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 17:31 last edited by
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            24 Jun 2022, 16:25

                            @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            Wow. Let the riots begin.

                            It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

                            And the gun ruling a day earlier. I question the timing, LOL.

                            Anyone denied a cc permit under the ny law would still have to reapply so the timing doesn’t really matter.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 17:31 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            Wow. Let the riots begin.

                            It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

                            And the gun ruling a day earlier. I question the timing, LOL.

                            Anyone denied a cc permit under the ny law would still have to reapply so the timing doesn’t really matter.

                            What are the rules regarding open carry?

                            The Brad

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                              George K
                              wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 17:32 last edited by
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                              "Peacefully protest..."

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                24 Jun 2022, 17:32

                                "Peacefully protest..."

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 17:43 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                "Peacefully protest..."

                                Just like Mr. Trump

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:04 last edited by
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                                  Moar insurrection?

                                  Parkland survivor...

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    24 Jun 2022, 15:03

                                    I think the fact that it leaked in May will help blunt the reaction. Some of steam has been released already.

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:08 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    I think the fact that it leaked in May will help blunt the reaction. Some of steam has been released already.

                                    Yeah exactly what I was telling my wife earlier. Your phrasing is even better.

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                                      24 Jun 2022, 18:04

                                      Moar insurrection?

                                      Parkland survivor...

                                      Screen-Shot-2022-06-24-at-9.jpg

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:11 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                      Moar insurrection?

                                      Parkland survivor...

                                      Screen-Shot-2022-06-24-at-9.jpg

                                      Voted to kill women? Is he referring to the justices who voted to keep abortion legal, then?

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:12 last edited by
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                                        Moar insurrection.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          24 Jun 2022, 17:32

                                          "Peacefully protest..."

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:12 last edited by
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                                          @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                          "Peacefully protest..."

                                          "Violence is never acceptable"... unless it's ending the life of an unborn baby.

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