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    • Jolly
      Jolly last edited by

      I support Rand Paul's bill.

      That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - Samuel Clemons

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      • taiwan_girl
        taiwan_girl last edited by

        What bill is that? The one that makes me leader of the world? LOL

        If so, I support that too!!

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        • jon-nyc
          jon-nyc last edited by jon-nyc

          If someone googles it could you post it here? If no one does, I fully understand.

          Omnes vulnerant, ultima necat.

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          • Jolly
            Jolly last edited by

            It's actually a resolution to change Senate rules.

            https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/sen-rand-paul-introduces-‘read-bills’-resolution

            That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - Samuel Clemons

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            • George K
              George K last edited by

              "would require all bills, amendments, and conference reports to be filed for one day for every 20 pages before it can be considered"

              So, a 2000 page bill would have 100 days for consdieration

              I'm okay with that.

              "it is imperative we pay close attention to the legislation we pass"

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              "I'm so old that I remember when other people's achievements were considered an inspiration rather than a grievance." - Thomas Sowell

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              • jon-nyc
                jon-nyc last edited by

                Seems like various congresses have written this into chamber rules only to go in and violate it.

                Omnes vulnerant, ultima necat.

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                • Jolly
                  Jolly @George K last edited by

                  @George-K said in Read The Bill bill:

                  "would require all bills, amendments, and conference reports to be filed for one day for every 20 pages before it can be considered"

                  So, a 2000 page bill would have 100 days for consdieration

                  I'm okay with that.

                  "it is imperative we pay close attention to the legislation we pass"

                  alt text

                  I could live with less time, but I heard Paul on Bongino's radio show yesterday and he said just this week a 100 page bill dropped on his desk and the vote was an hour after the bill was received. The effect was to create a madhouse among his staff, as everybody he had dropped everything to try to digest the bill and figure out exactly what it would do.

                  That's no way to run a railroad...

                  That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - Samuel Clemons

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                  • Mik
                    Mik last edited by

                    This may not be the proposal (or it may be), but certainly some form of responsibility has to be applied.

                    But then I support voter literacy testing anyway. If you can't be bothered to become at least marginally educated on the issues in front of you, you have failed your responsibility as a citizen.

                    "Summon scorn until it radiates from your person like a baleful beacon of contempt."

                    "I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" Dave Chappelle

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                    • Jolly
                      Jolly last edited by Jolly

                      Amen.

                      The Founders believed the only way a republic could work, was to have an educated citizenry.

                      That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - Samuel Clemons

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                      • LuFins Dad
                        LuFins Dad last edited by

                        They also need to get rid of omnibus bills.

                        Me/rry/Christmas

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                        • Axtremus
                          Axtremus @George K last edited by

                          @George-K said in Read The Bill bill:

                          "would require all bills, amendments, and conference reports to be filed for one day for every 20 pages before it can be considered"

                          Sounds like some old software project management “rule” that says “X man-weeks of code review for every man-week of coding” or “X number of QA testers for every programmer” … I don’t see software shops doing this anymore.

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                          • Axtremus
                            Axtremus @LuFins Dad last edited by

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Read The Bill bill:

                            They also need to get rid of omnibus bills.

                            Heck, they need to pass budgets on time rather than doing continuing resolutions that lasts a quarter or less at a time multiple times a year. Not a good way to run a country if all the agencies have to deal with the legally real possibilities of running out of funds multiple times every year.

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