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Read The Bill bill

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    I support Rand Paul's bill.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
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      #2

      What bill is that? The one that makes me leader of the world? LOL

      If so, I support that too!!

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        #3

        If someone googles it could you post it here? If no one does, I fully understand.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #4

          It's actually a resolution to change Senate rules.

          https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/sen-rand-paul-introduces-‘read-bills’-resolution

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #5

            "would require all bills, amendments, and conference reports to be filed for one day for every 20 pages before it can be considered"

            So, a 2000 page bill would have 100 days for consdieration

            I'm okay with that.

            "it is imperative we pay close attention to the legislation we pass"

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Seems like various congresses have written this into chamber rules only to go in and violate it.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • George KG George K

                "would require all bills, amendments, and conference reports to be filed for one day for every 20 pages before it can be considered"

                So, a 2000 page bill would have 100 days for consdieration

                I'm okay with that.

                "it is imperative we pay close attention to the legislation we pass"

                alt text

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @George-K said in Read The Bill bill:

                "would require all bills, amendments, and conference reports to be filed for one day for every 20 pages before it can be considered"

                So, a 2000 page bill would have 100 days for consdieration

                I'm okay with that.

                "it is imperative we pay close attention to the legislation we pass"

                alt text

                I could live with less time, but I heard Paul on Bongino's radio show yesterday and he said just this week a 100 page bill dropped on his desk and the vote was an hour after the bill was received. The effect was to create a madhouse among his staff, as everybody he had dropped everything to try to digest the bill and figure out exactly what it would do.

                That's no way to run a railroad...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • MikM Offline
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                  #8

                  This may not be the proposal (or it may be), but certainly some form of responsibility has to be applied.

                  But then I support voter literacy testing anyway. If you can't be bothered to become at least marginally educated on the issues in front of you, you have failed your responsibility as a citizen.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by Jolly
                    #9

                    Amen.

                    The Founders believed the only way a republic could work, was to have an educated citizenry.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #10

                      They also need to get rid of omnibus bills.

                      The Brad

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                      • George KG George K

                        "would require all bills, amendments, and conference reports to be filed for one day for every 20 pages before it can be considered"

                        So, a 2000 page bill would have 100 days for consdieration

                        I'm okay with that.

                        "it is imperative we pay close attention to the legislation we pass"

                        alt text

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                        Axtremus
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                        #11

                        @George-K said in Read The Bill bill:

                        "would require all bills, amendments, and conference reports to be filed for one day for every 20 pages before it can be considered"

                        Sounds like some old software project management “rule” that says “X man-weeks of code review for every man-week of coding” or “X number of QA testers for every programmer” … I don’t see software shops doing this anymore.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          They also need to get rid of omnibus bills.

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                          Axtremus
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Read The Bill bill:

                          They also need to get rid of omnibus bills.

                          Heck, they need to pass budgets on time rather than doing continuing resolutions that lasts a quarter or less at a time multiple times a year. Not a good way to run a country if all the agencies have to deal with the legally real possibilities of running out of funds multiple times every year.

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