Public Funds for Islamic Education
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@Copper said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
Neither religion nor education are sacred if they are also evil.
Let's say that a religion inspired the 9/11 attacks or called it's adherents to war against the Great Satan or it's leaders called for death to Israel, this might be considered evil. In which case it would probably be best if we didn't fund this sort of religion or education.
Brings up an interesting point...Should we discriminate with public dollars in order to promote a certain viewpoint in education, such as Judeo-Christian? If you wish to open a Muslim school, more power to you, but you don't get public money. Jewish or Christian schools, you do.
Would this eventually make the Melting Pot more homogeneous?
@Jolly said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
@Copper said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
Neither religion nor education are sacred if they are also evil.
Let's say that a religion inspired the 9/11 attacks or called it's adherents to war against the Great Satan or it's leaders called for death to Israel, this might be considered evil. In which case it would probably be best if we didn't fund this sort of religion or education.
Brings up an interesting point...Should we discriminate with public dollars in order to promote a certain viewpoint in education, such as Judeo-Christian? If you wish to open a Muslim school, more power to you, but you don't get public money. Jewish or Christian schools, you do.
Would this eventually make the Melting Pot more homogeneous?
Good luck getting that constitutional amendment passed.
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@Jolly said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
@Copper said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
Neither religion nor education are sacred if they are also evil.
Let's say that a religion inspired the 9/11 attacks or called it's adherents to war against the Great Satan or it's leaders called for death to Israel, this might be considered evil. In which case it would probably be best if we didn't fund this sort of religion or education.
Brings up an interesting point...Should we discriminate with public dollars in order to promote a certain viewpoint in education, such as Judeo-Christian? If you wish to open a Muslim school, more power to you, but you don't get public money. Jewish or Christian schools, you do.
Would this eventually make the Melting Pot more homogeneous?
Good luck getting that constitutional amendment passed.
@jon-nyc In essence, was that not the genesis of the public school system?
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Seems like you need to decide if forgoing public funds is something they can do on a whim to follow their principles or if it means they canât afford teachers or equipment. Because youâre saying both and itâs a bit inconsistent.
@jon-nyc said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
Seems like you need to decide if forgoing public funds is something they can do on a whim to follow their principles or if it means they canât afford teachers or equipment. Because youâre saying both and itâs a bit inconsistent.
There is no inconsistency. I am saying the school can take the hit if and when they need to, but not earlier. I make no claims about the pain of the hit. I understand youâd like Christian schools to self-flagellate, but they are under no obligation to do so. I think you mostly want to imply that itâs unprincipled for them to take public money to begin with.
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Iâm sure there are any number of criteria to meet to be turned down for public funds. But now religion is not one of them. We forget how much the various churches have done and still do to build education and healthcare in this country.
@Mik said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
We forget how much the various churches have done and still do to build education and healthcare in this country.
True, not to mention charity, shelter, counseling, assisting new mothers, etc.
BTW - I only scanned it but it seems the ruling is about how citizens USE the taxpayer money, which I think is different from "give tax dollars directly to a religious schools". It (correctly, IMO) says that citizens can use the money for schools, regardless if the school is religion-based. Seems fair to me.
Also the separation of church and state is one of those over-used phrases that doesn't even appear in the Constitution IIRC. Now, if they are talking about the establishment clause (government shall make no law regarding the establishment of a religion or free exercise thereof), then this SCOTUS decision is pretty constitutionally correct. Shocker.
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@Mik said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
We forget how much the various churches have done and still do to build education and healthcare in this country.
True, not to mention charity, shelter, counseling, assisting new mothers, etc.
BTW - I only scanned it but it seems the ruling is about how citizens USE the taxpayer money, which I think is different from "give tax dollars directly to a religious schools". It (correctly, IMO) says that citizens can use the money for schools, regardless if the school is religion-based. Seems fair to me.
Also the separation of church and state is one of those over-used phrases that doesn't even appear in the Constitution IIRC. Now, if they are talking about the establishment clause (government shall make no law regarding the establishment of a religion or free exercise thereof), then this SCOTUS decision is pretty constitutionally correct. Shocker.
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@89th said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
... then this SCOTUS decision is pretty constitutionally correct.
Try taking a look at this post and let me know what you think of the "states' rights" aspect of this ruling.
@Axtremus said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
@89th said in Public Funds for Islamic Education:
... then this SCOTUS decision is pretty constitutionally correct.
Try taking a look at this post and let me know what you think of the "states' rights" aspect of this ruling.
Itâs not rocket science. Read the ruling.
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