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  • Doctor PhibesD Online
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #21

    Never mind... 🙂

    I was only joking

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      I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

      I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

      Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

        I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

        Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

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        @Axtremus said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

        I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

        Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

        It’s politically useful to remind everybody of the shame of slavery. Not so much to remind everybody of whatever joyous culture Kwanzaa was meant to celebrate.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

          Juneteenth is now a holiday here. Kids home from school on the Monday.

          Everywhere. It's a federal holiday.

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          @Aqua-Letifer said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

          @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

          Juneteenth is now a holiday here. Kids home from school on the Monday.

          Everywhere. It's a federal holiday.

          Each and every race should have a holiday

          Equity

          No justice, no peace

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          • CopperC Copper

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

            @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

            Juneteenth is now a holiday here. Kids home from school on the Monday.

            Everywhere. It's a federal holiday.

            Each and every race should have a holiday

            Equity

            No justice, no peace

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            @Copper said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

            @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

            Juneteenth is now a holiday here. Kids home from school on the Monday.

            Everywhere. It's a federal holiday.

            Each and every race should have a holiday

            You think too small. Try “each and every intersectional group should have a holiday.”

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @Axtremus said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

              I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

              Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

              It’s politically useful to remind everybody of the shame of slavery. Not so much to remind everybody of whatever joyous culture Kwanzaa was meant to celebrate.

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              @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

              @Axtremus said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

              I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

              Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

              It’s politically useful to remind everybody of the shame of slavery. Not so much to remind everybody of whatever joyous culture Kwanzaa was meant to celebrate.

              Be that as it may, it was certainly the single greatest milestone in our long march to make real the lofty ambitions of the Declaration of Independence. It is very clearly worthy of a national holiday.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Offline
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                That's hard to argue against.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                  @Axtremus said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                  I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

                  Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

                  It’s politically useful to remind everybody of the shame of slavery. Not so much to remind everybody of whatever joyous culture Kwanzaa was meant to celebrate.

                  Be that as it may, it was certainly the single greatest milestone in our long march to make real the lofty ambitions of the Declaration of Independence. It is very clearly worthy of a national holiday.

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  #28

                  @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                  @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                  @Axtremus said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                  I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

                  Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

                  It’s politically useful to remind everybody of the shame of slavery. Not so much to remind everybody of whatever joyous culture Kwanzaa was meant to celebrate.

                  Be that as it may, it was certainly the single greatest milestone in our long march to make real the lofty ambitions of the Declaration of Independence. It is very clearly worthy of a national holiday.

                  That’s fine with me, and I am aware that millions of white Americans descend from people who risked their lives in the war to abolish slavery. Too bad the remembrance now is transparently political.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                    @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                    @Axtremus said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                    I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

                    Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

                    It’s politically useful to remind everybody of the shame of slavery. Not so much to remind everybody of whatever joyous culture Kwanzaa was meant to celebrate.

                    Be that as it may, it was certainly the single greatest milestone in our long march to make real the lofty ambitions of the Declaration of Independence. It is very clearly worthy of a national holiday.

                    That’s fine with me, and I am aware that millions of white Americans descend from people who risked their lives in the war to abolish slavery. Too bad the remembrance now is transparently political.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #29

                    @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                    @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                    @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                    @Axtremus said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                    I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

                    Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

                    It’s politically useful to remind everybody of the shame of slavery. Not so much to remind everybody of whatever joyous culture Kwanzaa was meant to celebrate.

                    Be that as it may, it was certainly the single greatest milestone in our long march to make real the lofty ambitions of the Declaration of Independence. It is very clearly worthy of a national holiday.

                    That’s fine with me, and I am aware that millions of white Americans descend from people who risked their lives in the war to abolish slavery. Too bad the remembrance now is transparently political.

                    The ironic thing is that substantially all black people (save immigrants in last 50 years) are descended from people who risked their lives in the war effort which, if successful, would have retained slavery.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      We should get shirts made expressing pride in Anglo-America for leading the world in the abolition of this ten thousand year old tradition.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        We should get shirts made expressing pride in Anglo-America for leading the world in the abolition of this ten thousand year old tradition.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                        We should get shirts made expressing pride in Anglo-America for leading the world in the abolition of this ten thousand year old tradition.

                        Douglas Murray may have a merch section of his website and if so you may find that there.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          So, at this "virtual" event, will there be drag queens?

                          Will there be neon signs saying, "It's not going to lick itself?"

                          Will there be a video tour of BLM leaders' mansions?

                          Will we see leather, ball-gags?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Only at children's story hour. My daughter's bookstore she worked at is having one. Seriously. Why in hell do children have to be exposed to this foolishness?

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                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                              @Axtremus said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                              I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

                              Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

                              It’s politically useful to remind everybody of the shame of slavery. Not so much to remind everybody of whatever joyous culture Kwanzaa was meant to celebrate.

                              Be that as it may, it was certainly the single greatest milestone in our long march to make real the lofty ambitions of the Declaration of Independence. It is very clearly worthy of a national holiday.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                              @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                              @Axtremus said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                              I'd honestly never heard of Juneteenth until last year.

                              Years ago it used to be Kwanza that was celebrated as an African-American holiday. Then in recent years I don’t hear much about Kwanza anymore, as Juneteenth came about to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans.

                              It’s politically useful to remind everybody of the shame of slavery. Not so much to remind everybody of whatever joyous culture Kwanzaa was meant to celebrate.

                              Be that as it may, it was certainly the single greatest milestone in our long march to make real the lofty ambitions of the Declaration of Independence. It is very clearly worthy of a national holiday.

                              Right but it's not exactly Christmas or the 4th of July. A lot of stuff made for Juneteenth is red. For bloodshed. I wouldn't classify it as purely celebratory.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                You might say the same about July 4.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  You might say the same about July 4.

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                                  @Mik said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                                  You might say the same about July 4.

                                  Historically or technically speaking, you bet. In practice, not even close to the same.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    Not sure I see any substantial difference. Body count, maybe.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Not sure I see any substantial difference. Body count, maybe.

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                                      @Mik said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                                      Not sure I see any substantial difference. Body count, maybe.

                                      If you were Wal-Mart, and you created a 4th of July event in celebration of the holiday, no one would shit down your throat about it.

                                      If you were Wal-Mart, and you created a Juneteenth event in celebration of the holiday, this would happen: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/24/business-food/walmart-juneteenth-ice-cream/index.html

                                      That's my point. There is a massive practical difference. Not saying there should be, I'm talking about what is.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                        @Mik said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                                        Not sure I see any substantial difference. Body count, maybe.

                                        If you were Wal-Mart, and you created a 4th of July event in celebration of the holiday, no one would shit down your throat about it.

                                        If you were Wal-Mart, and you created a Juneteenth event in celebration of the holiday, this would happen: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/24/business-food/walmart-juneteenth-ice-cream/index.html

                                        That's my point. There is a massive practical difference. Not saying there should be, I'm talking about what is.

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                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                                        @Mik said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                                        Not sure I see any substantial difference. Body count, maybe.

                                        If you were Wal-Mart, and you created a 4th of July event in celebration of the holiday, no one would shit down your throat about it.

                                        If you were Wal-Mart, and you created a Juneteenth event in celebration of the holiday, this would happen: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/24/business-food/walmart-juneteenth-ice-cream/index.html

                                        That's my point. There is a massive practical difference. Not saying there should be, I'm talking about what is.

                                        That story didn’t explain why people complained. I mean I’m not surprised they stepped on an eggshell with that merch, but I’m not sure how they messed up. But it reminds me of the cringe I felt when I saw my workplace doing a combined Pride/Juneteenth event. Someone is going to consider it tone deaf. And that person’s opinion will matter, if they choose to express it loudly.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Since the beginning of time, how many people have been slaves?

                                          By race

                                          How many have been slave owners?

                                          How many people today have slave ancestors?

                                          How many are slaves today?

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