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Sit down: Iran is cheating!

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    George K
    wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 12:55 last edited by
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    Really. Who would have ever thought this would happen?

    VIENNA (AP) — Iran has continued to increase its stockpiles of enriched uranium and remains in violation of its deal with world powers, the United Nations’ atomic watchdog said Friday.

    The International Atomic Energy Agency reported the finding in a confidential document distributed to member countries and seen by The Associated Press.

    The agency said that as of May 20, Iran’s total stockpile of low-enriched uranium amounted to 1,571.6 kilograms (1.73 tons), up from 1,020.9 kilograms (1.1 tons) on Feb. 19.

    Iran signed the nuclear deal in 2015 with the United States, Germany, France, Britain, China and Russia. Known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA, it allows Iran only to keep a stockpile of 202.8 kilograms (447 pounds).

    The IAEA reported that Iran has also been continuing to enrich uranium to a purity of up to 4.5%, higher than the 3.67% allowed under the JCPOA. It is also above the pact’s limitations on heavy water.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 13:09 last edited by
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      What cheating? Iran announced that they have withdrawn from the JCPOA back in January 5, 2020, roughly two years after the USA withdrew from the JCPOA.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 13:57 last edited by
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        @Axtremus

        I don't know much about this situation, but I also thought that both sides "cancelled" the treaty? I thought that when the US said that they were stopping the treaty, Iran pretty much said the same thing.

        But anyway, not a surprise I dont think.

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          8 Jun 2020, 13:09

          What cheating? Iran announced that they have withdrawn from the JCPOA back in January 5, 2020, roughly two years after the USA withdrew from the JCPOA.

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          Larry
          wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 14:11 last edited by
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          @Axtremus said in Sit down: Iran is cheating!:

          What cheating? Iran announced that they have withdrawn from the JCPOA back in January 5, 2020, roughly two years after the USA withdrew from the JCPOA.

          I hope if I'm ever involved in a car wreck or something where a witness is needed to help sort things out, you're not the one they ask to describe things......

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 17:28 last edited by
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            If they’re cheating than so are we.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Mik
              wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 17:46 last edited by
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              I think the regime is doing everything it can to be relevant again.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 17:51 last edited by
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                The Trump administration is doing everything it can to not be relevant again.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 17:56 last edited by
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                  Won't it be fun when he's re-elected!

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    xenon
                    wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 18:06 last edited by xenon 6 Aug 2020, 18:07
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                    Stepping back - we're out of the Iran deal this administration didn't like.

                    What's in its place?

                    Reminds me of Seinfeld at the car rental counter and they don't have his car: "Anyone can take reservations, the key is holding the reservation."

                    The repeal is the easy part, the replace is the hard one.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 18:22 last edited by
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                      “No deal is better than this deal”.

                      Winning.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        8 Jun 2020, 17:51

                        The Trump administration is doing everything it can to not be relevant again.

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                        Larry
                        wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 19:10 last edited by
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                        @Axtremus said in Sit down: Iran is cheating!:

                        The Trump administration is doing everything it can to not be relevant again.

                        The Trump administration will go down in history as the greatest 8 year period in American history.

                        You will go down in history as just one more politically constipated Democrat who couldn't find his own ass.

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                        • L Larry
                          8 Jun 2020, 19:10

                          @Axtremus said in Sit down: Iran is cheating!:

                          The Trump administration is doing everything it can to not be relevant again.

                          The Trump administration will go down in history as the greatest 8 year period in American history.

                          You will go down in history as just one more politically constipated Democrat who couldn't find his own ass.

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                          xenon
                          wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 19:15 last edited by
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                          @Larry said in Sit down: Iran is cheating!:

                          @Axtremus said in Sit down: Iran is cheating!:

                          The Trump administration is doing everything it can to not be relevant again.

                          The Trump administration will go down in history as the greatest 8 year period in American history.

                          You will go down in history as just one more politically constipated Democrat who couldn't find his own ass.

                          Your faith in the power of government is cute.

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                            Larry
                            wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 19:20 last edited by
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                            Do you think government is powerless?

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                              8 Jun 2020, 19:20

                              Do you think government is powerless?

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                              xenon
                              wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 19:21 last edited by xenon 6 Aug 2020, 19:21
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                              @Larry No

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 19:23 last edited by
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                                Ah, then you agree with me...

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                                  8 Jun 2020, 19:23

                                  Ah, then you agree with me...

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                                  xenon
                                  wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 19:24 last edited by xenon 6 Aug 2020, 19:25
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                                  @Larry No, I don't. A federal administration is not going to be the driving force in achieving the "greatest 8 year period in American history".

                                  It's like saying a teacher you had (even a good one) is responsible for your eventual career success and multi-millions.

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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 19:34 last edited by Larry 6 Aug 2020, 19:35
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                                    If the federal government has no power, then why does it matter whether we have a deal with Iran or not?

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                                      8 Jun 2020, 19:34

                                      If the federal government has no power, then why does it matter whether we have a deal with Iran or not?

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                                      xenon
                                      wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 19:37 last edited by xenon 6 Aug 2020, 19:37
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                                      @Larry You seem to want me to take a side between the government having zero power and near-omnipotence.

                                      I think my teacher analogy works ok here.

                                      As to Iran, Foreign policy is one of the areas where the federal government is given primacy over other actors.

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                                        Larry
                                        wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 19:40 last edited by
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                                        I've never even remotely hinted at the notion that the federal government has no power. YOU are the only who brought that up, not me. And your teacher analogy is not just wrong, it's irrelevant

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                                        • L Larry
                                          8 Jun 2020, 19:40

                                          I've never even remotely hinted at the notion that the federal government has no power. YOU are the only who brought that up, not me. And your teacher analogy is not just wrong, it's irrelevant

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                                          xenon
                                          wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 19:42 last edited by xenon 6 Aug 2020, 19:43
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                                          @Larry You're having difficulty following. I never said the federal government has no power.

                                          You think it has enough power to be the driving force behind the "greatest 8 year period in American history"

                                          I don't think it has that much power. Clear?

                                          Remember when Obama said, "You didn't build that"

                                          Think about that for a bit.

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