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Sit down: Iran is cheating!

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Won't it be fun when he's re-elected!

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Stepping back - we're out of the Iran deal this administration didn't like.

      What's in its place?

      Reminds me of Seinfeld at the car rental counter and they don't have his car: "Anyone can take reservations, the key is holding the reservation."

      The repeal is the easy part, the replace is the hard one.

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        “No deal is better than this deal”.

        Winning.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          The Trump administration is doing everything it can to not be relevant again.

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          @Axtremus said in Sit down: Iran is cheating!:

          The Trump administration is doing everything it can to not be relevant again.

          The Trump administration will go down in history as the greatest 8 year period in American history.

          You will go down in history as just one more politically constipated Democrat who couldn't find his own ass.

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          • LarryL Larry

            @Axtremus said in Sit down: Iran is cheating!:

            The Trump administration is doing everything it can to not be relevant again.

            The Trump administration will go down in history as the greatest 8 year period in American history.

            You will go down in history as just one more politically constipated Democrat who couldn't find his own ass.

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            @Larry said in Sit down: Iran is cheating!:

            @Axtremus said in Sit down: Iran is cheating!:

            The Trump administration is doing everything it can to not be relevant again.

            The Trump administration will go down in history as the greatest 8 year period in American history.

            You will go down in history as just one more politically constipated Democrat who couldn't find his own ass.

            Your faith in the power of government is cute.

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              Do you think government is powerless?

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              • LarryL Larry

                Do you think government is powerless?

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                xenon
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                #14

                @Larry No

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                  #15

                  Ah, then you agree with me...

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                  • LarryL Larry

                    Ah, then you agree with me...

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                    xenon
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                    #16

                    @Larry No, I don't. A federal administration is not going to be the driving force in achieving the "greatest 8 year period in American history".

                    It's like saying a teacher you had (even a good one) is responsible for your eventual career success and multi-millions.

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                      Larry
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                      #17

                      If the federal government has no power, then why does it matter whether we have a deal with Iran or not?

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                      • LarryL Larry

                        If the federal government has no power, then why does it matter whether we have a deal with Iran or not?

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                        xenon
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                        #18

                        @Larry You seem to want me to take a side between the government having zero power and near-omnipotence.

                        I think my teacher analogy works ok here.

                        As to Iran, Foreign policy is one of the areas where the federal government is given primacy over other actors.

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                          I've never even remotely hinted at the notion that the federal government has no power. YOU are the only who brought that up, not me. And your teacher analogy is not just wrong, it's irrelevant

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                          • LarryL Larry

                            I've never even remotely hinted at the notion that the federal government has no power. YOU are the only who brought that up, not me. And your teacher analogy is not just wrong, it's irrelevant

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                            xenon
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                            @Larry You're having difficulty following. I never said the federal government has no power.

                            You think it has enough power to be the driving force behind the "greatest 8 year period in American history"

                            I don't think it has that much power. Clear?

                            Remember when Obama said, "You didn't build that"

                            Think about that for a bit.

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                              You are talking in circles. It's like you think I'm saying the federal government is the one that gets up every morning and goes to work at the jobs that generate and drive the economy. You tell me my faith in government is "cute", obviously not understanding what I'm saying, but at the same time you argue that having a deal with Iran is critical.

                              I understand you completely. You are the one that has lost the plot.

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                              • LarryL Larry

                                You are talking in circles. It's like you think I'm saying the federal government is the one that gets up every morning and goes to work at the jobs that generate and drive the economy. You tell me my faith in government is "cute", obviously not understanding what I'm saying, but at the same time you argue that having a deal with Iran is critical.

                                I understand you completely. You are the one that has lost the plot.

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                                xenon
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                                @Larry I'll just repeat what I said twice already - but you haven't directly addressed.

                                I don't think the federal government has enough power to be the driving force behind the "greatest 8 year period in American history".

                                You think that:

                                The Trump administration will go down in history as the greatest 8 year period in American history.

                                You can still have power and not be the most important source of power.

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                                  @Larry I'll just repeat what I said twice already - but you haven't directly addressed.

                                  I don't think the federal government has enough power to be the driving force behind the "greatest 8 year period in American history".

                                  You think that:

                                  The Trump administration will go down in history as the greatest 8 year period in American history.

                                  You can still have power and not be the most important source of power.

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                                  @xenon said in Sit down: Iran is cheating!:

                                  @Larry I'll just repeat what I said twice already - but you haven't directly addressed.

                                  I don't think the federal government has enough power to be the driving force behind the "greatest 8 year period in American history".

                                  You think that:

                                  The Trump administration will go down in history as the greatest 8 year period in American history.

                                  You can still have power and not be the most important source of power.

                                  I'm aware that's what you think.

                                  I'm also aware that you are incorrect.

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