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    George K
    wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 12:00 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Jolly
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      As long as you consider them the propaganda wing of the Demonrats, it all makes sense...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        22 Oct 2022, 12:34

        As long as you consider them the propaganda wing of the Demonrats, it all makes sense...

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        George K
        wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 12:37 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in Fetterman:

        the propaganda wing of the Demonrats

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          22 Oct 2022, 12:00

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 12:40 last edited by
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          @George-K Have you read “Butcher of Language” op-ed?

          A couple of examples cited therein:

          When challenged on reducing the cost of insulin, Walker responded: “I believe in reducing insulin, but at the same time, you got to eat right, because he may not know and I know many people that’s on insulin, and unless you have a eating right, insulin is doing you no good.”

          … Walker said: “Well right now, people have coverage for health care. It’s according to what type of coverage do you want because if you have an able-bodied job, you’re going to have health care. But everyone else have health care, it’s the type of health care you’re going to get. And I think that is the problem. And what Senator Warnock wants you to do is to depend on the government. What I want you to do is get off the government health care and get on the health care he’s got.”

          The last part I bolded goes beyond language issue, it seems Walker wants people to “get off government health care” and get onto whatever health care Warnock has got, seemingly oblivious to the fact that as a U.S. Senator Warnock is also on “government health care.”

          I have interacted with many people with poor command of the English language and many of them did their jobs just fine, though their jobs are mostly technical, requiring specialized skills/knowledge, or labor intensive, not ones where command of the English language is all that important (e.g., lawyer or “Director of Communications” type corporate jobs in North America).

          As for the Fetterman headline about needing technology to do his job, I haven’t been able to find any NYT article with that exact headline. You got a link?

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            22 Oct 2022, 12:40

            @George-K Have you read “Butcher of Language” op-ed?

            A couple of examples cited therein:

            When challenged on reducing the cost of insulin, Walker responded: “I believe in reducing insulin, but at the same time, you got to eat right, because he may not know and I know many people that’s on insulin, and unless you have a eating right, insulin is doing you no good.”

            … Walker said: “Well right now, people have coverage for health care. It’s according to what type of coverage do you want because if you have an able-bodied job, you’re going to have health care. But everyone else have health care, it’s the type of health care you’re going to get. And I think that is the problem. And what Senator Warnock wants you to do is to depend on the government. What I want you to do is get off the government health care and get on the health care he’s got.”

            The last part I bolded goes beyond language issue, it seems Walker wants people to “get off government health care” and get onto whatever health care Warnock has got, seemingly oblivious to the fact that as a U.S. Senator Warnock is also on “government health care.”

            I have interacted with many people with poor command of the English language and many of them did their jobs just fine, though their jobs are mostly technical, requiring specialized skills/knowledge, or labor intensive, not ones where command of the English language is all that important (e.g., lawyer or “Director of Communications” type corporate jobs in North America).

            As for the Fetterman headline about needing technology to do his job, I haven’t been able to find any NYT article with that exact headline. You got a link?

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            George K
            wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 12:50 last edited by
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            @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

            As for the Fetterman headline about needing technology to do his job, I haven’t been able to find any NYT article with that exact headline. You got a link?

            Multiple cites of that headline, but they all re-direct to a "caused a furor" op ed in the NYT.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/y3f8sl/john_fetterman_is_a_disabled_american_who_needs/

            https://www.reddit.com/r/ArizonaLeft/comments/y45i43/john_fetterman_is_a_disabled_american_who_needs/

            The internet wayback machine has this archived:

            https://web.archive.org/web/20221013190244/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/opinion/fetterman-disability.html

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              22 Oct 2022, 12:50

              @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

              As for the Fetterman headline about needing technology to do his job, I haven’t been able to find any NYT article with that exact headline. You got a link?

              Multiple cites of that headline, but they all re-direct to a "caused a furor" op ed in the NYT.

              https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/y3f8sl/john_fetterman_is_a_disabled_american_who_needs/

              https://www.reddit.com/r/ArizonaLeft/comments/y45i43/john_fetterman_is_a_disabled_american_who_needs/

              The internet wayback machine has this archived:

              https://web.archive.org/web/20221013190244/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/opinion/fetterman-disability.html

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 13:50 last edited by
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              @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

              Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

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              • A Axtremus
                22 Oct 2022, 13:50

                @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 14:04 last edited by
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                @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

                @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

                Sure would. Would support Fetterman if he wasn’t an idiot without the stroke. Who knows, it may have helped his cognitive function. I don’t think it could have damaged them…

                But it would be good to have some live demonstrations that it’s an auditory disconnect and not a cognitive one. Unfortunately, to this point we have yet to be given an example where the interviews weren’t pre-scripted giving Fetterman advance access to the questions. I would like to see a debate where the questions were written out but not given in to the team in advance.

                The Brad

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 14:17 last edited by
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                  It seems to be becoming the standard for the Democrat party.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    22 Oct 2022, 14:04

                    @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

                    @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                    Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

                    Sure would. Would support Fetterman if he wasn’t an idiot without the stroke. Who knows, it may have helped his cognitive function. I don’t think it could have damaged them…

                    But it would be good to have some live demonstrations that it’s an auditory disconnect and not a cognitive one. Unfortunately, to this point we have yet to be given an example where the interviews weren’t pre-scripted giving Fetterman advance access to the questions. I would like to see a debate where the questions were written out but not given in to the team in advance.

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 14:39 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman:

                    Would support Fetterman if he wasn’t an idiot without the stroke.

                    Just curious, what evidence would you cite to support your claim that Fetterman was an idiot without the stroke?

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                    • A Axtremus
                      22 Oct 2022, 13:50

                      @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                      Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 14:52 last edited by
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                      @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

                      @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                      Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

                      What does being a deaf mute have to do with cognitive function?

                      There are three in my wife's extended family. Provided you can sign, they can carry on a pretty rapid conversation, complete with the occasional curse word. They all read and write pretty well...One has a college degree.

                      So what's yer point, bud?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        22 Oct 2022, 14:39

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman:

                        Would support Fetterman if he wasn’t an idiot without the stroke.

                        Just curious, what evidence would you cite to support your claim that Fetterman was an idiot without the stroke?

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 17:53 last edited by
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                        @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman:

                        Would support Fetterman if he wasn’t an idiot without the stroke.

                        Just curious, what evidence would you cite to support your claim that Fetterman was an idiot without the stroke?

                        For Exhibits 1 - 738, I present Braddock, Pennsylvania.

                        The Brad

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                          George K
                          wrote on 25 Oct 2022, 22:58 last edited by
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                          Tonight is the debate.

                          Anyone gonna watch?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 25 Oct 2022, 23:10 last edited by
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                            Uncle Fester gets a teleprompter and what else?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              25 Oct 2022, 23:10

                              Uncle Fester gets a teleprompter and what else?

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                              George K
                              wrote on 25 Oct 2022, 23:14 last edited by
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                              @Jolly said in Fetterman:

                              Uncle Fester gets a teleprompter and what else?

                              Jake Tapper
                              Nicole Wallace
                              Rev (?) Sharpton
                              Chuck Todd...

                              Continue at your leisure.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                25 Oct 2022, 23:14

                                @Jolly said in Fetterman:

                                Uncle Fester gets a teleprompter and what else?

                                Jake Tapper
                                Nicole Wallace
                                Rev (?) Sharpton
                                Chuck Todd...

                                Continue at your leisure.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 25 Oct 2022, 23:57 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in Fetterman:

                                @Jolly said in Fetterman:

                                Uncle Fester gets a teleprompter and what else?

                                Jake Tapper
                                Nicole Wallace
                                Rev (?) Sharpton
                                Chuck Todd...

                                Continue at your leisure.

                                I saw that Chris Cuomo has sloppy seconds wrap up duty, who is moderating?

                                The Brad

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 26 Oct 2022, 00:26 last edited by
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                                  "John Fetterman talks about housing, but he didn't pay for his own house."

                                  LOL

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 26 Oct 2022, 00:29 last edited by
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                                    Considering his stroke, I'm impressed with how Fetterman's doing. He gets the question, and despite his speech problems, responds appropriately and seems to "get it."

                                    He's not coming off as an idiot or brain-addled.

                                    Even though he's an idiot.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      26 Oct 2022, 00:29

                                      Considering his stroke, I'm impressed with how Fetterman's doing. He gets the question, and despite his speech problems, responds appropriately and seems to "get it."

                                      He's not coming off as an idiot or brain-addled.

                                      Even though he's an idiot.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 26 Oct 2022, 00:41 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in Fetterman:

                                      Considering his stroke, I'm impressed with how Fetterman's doing. He gets the question, and despite his speech problems, responds appropriately and seems to "get it."

                                      He's not coming off as an idiot or brain-addled.

                                      Even though he's an idiot.

                                      Not watching, but am slightly interested. This was a risky move. It just takes one off answer…

                                      The Brad

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 26 Oct 2022, 00:42 last edited by George K
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                                        Oz says he'd support Trump if Trump is nominated.

                                        Fetterman would support Biden "If he chooses to run."

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 26 Oct 2022, 01:43 last edited by
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                                          I heard he still wouldn’t apologize for pulling a shotgun on a jogger?

                                          The Brad

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