Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast
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If you know Bret's background at Evergreen, you will enjoy this prescient analysis by Bret even more. This is his take on what's going on with the protests/riots, and what the Antifa-types want.
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Good thoughts by Brett and Heather. I've seen it bandied about that the election of Trump constituted the right's intentional destruction of the system so it can be rebuilt. I suppose there is a kernel of truth to it. Sadly, the other political side has given these anarchists, who are way more committed to destruction in a very real and practical sense, the cover of virtue. And the anarchists are exploiting it.
That said, the idea that there is the goal to destroy and rebuild seems to me to overstate the organization behind the riots. I think the rioting was just mobs being mobs, sacking cities like in the old days.
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@horace said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
What recent developments?
The "COVID vaccines kill, Ivermectin is the miracle drug, but THEY don't wan't you to know" stuff.
@klaus said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
@horace said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
What recent developments?
The "COVID vaccines kill, Ivermectin is the miracle drug, but THEY don't wan't you to know" stuff.
Is there an episode you'd recommend to get a good overview of what he thinks?
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@klaus said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
@horace said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
What recent developments?
The "COVID vaccines kill, Ivermectin is the miracle drug, but THEY don't wan't you to know" stuff.
Is there an episode you'd recommend to get a good overview of what he thinks?
More links can be found in this critical discussion:
https://quillette.com/2021/07/06/looking-for-covid-19-miracle-drugs-we-already-have-them-theyre-called-vaccines/ -
@klaus said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
More links can be found in this critical discussion:
https://quillette.com/2021/07/06/looking-for-covid-19-miracle-drugs-we-already-have-them-theyre-called-vaccines/Thanks Klaus. I listened to the podcast. I guess we'd all better hope it's a nuts conspiracy theory, otherwise human civilization is broken and irredeemable.
I don't really think the reasoning behind the notion that he's a nuts conspiracy theorist goes much beyond "because the consensus is that he's a nuts conspiracy theorist". I don't believe that he and his guest and whatever other legit scholars agree with them, are ignoring clear evidence that they're wrong. Study Ivermectin!
Education is extremely important.
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@klaus said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
More links can be found in this critical discussion:
https://quillette.com/2021/07/06/looking-for-covid-19-miracle-drugs-we-already-have-them-theyre-called-vaccines/Thanks Klaus. I listened to the podcast. I guess we'd all better hope it's a nuts conspiracy theory, otherwise human civilization is broken and irredeemable.
I don't really think the reasoning behind the notion that he's a nuts conspiracy theorist goes much beyond "because the consensus is that he's a nuts conspiracy theorist". I don't believe that he and his guest and whatever other legit scholars agree with them, are ignoring clear evidence that they're wrong. Study Ivermectin!
@horace said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
I don't really think the reasoning behind the notion that he's a nuts conspiracy theorist goes much beyond "because the consensus is that he's a nuts conspiracy theorist". I don't believe that he and his guest and whatever other legit scholars agree with them, are ignoring clear evidence that they're wrong. Study Ivermectin!
I didn't follow all the details here, but even if he has a point, it is wrong to recommend a drug without having the large-scale studies that back up that it works for the intended purpose and does not have major side effects.
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@horace said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
I don't really think the reasoning behind the notion that he's a nuts conspiracy theorist goes much beyond "because the consensus is that he's a nuts conspiracy theorist". I don't believe that he and his guest and whatever other legit scholars agree with them, are ignoring clear evidence that they're wrong. Study Ivermectin!
I didn't follow all the details here, but even if he has a point, it is wrong to recommend a drug without having the large-scale studies that back up that it works for the intended purpose and does not have major side effects.
@klaus said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
@horace said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
I don't really think the reasoning behind the notion that he's a nuts conspiracy theorist goes much beyond "because the consensus is that he's a nuts conspiracy theorist". I don't believe that he and his guest and whatever other legit scholars agree with them, are ignoring clear evidence that they're wrong. Study Ivermectin!
I didn't follow all the details here, but even if he has a point, it is wrong to recommend a drug without having the large-scale studies that back up that it works for the intended purpose and does not have major side effects.
He said that Ivermectin, from all we know, is less risky than the vaccines. To dismiss him, you just have to trust that he has no idea what he is talking about.
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That's not an accurate summary of what he said.
On most major topics, you could generate an opinion by a random opinion generator and you'll find an "expert" who will have that opinion. What matters at the end of the day is data and evidence. One can of course dismiss both by an appropriate conspiracy theory, but right now I see no reason to believe in large-scale conspiracy theories about COVID.
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That's not an accurate summary of what he said.
On most major topics, you could generate an opinion by a random opinion generator and you'll find an "expert" who will have that opinion. What matters at the end of the day is data and evidence. One can of course dismiss both by an appropriate conspiracy theory, but right now I see no reason to believe in large-scale conspiracy theories about COVID.
@klaus said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
That's not an accurate summary of what he said.
It's my recollection of what he said...
On most major topics, you could generate an opinion by a random opinion generator and you'll find an "expert" who will have that opinion. What matters at the end of the day is data and evidence. One can of course dismiss both by an appropriate conspiracy theory, but right now I see no reason to believe in large-scale conspiracy theories about COVID.
He doesn't describe the nuts and bolts of it as a "conspiracy theory". Those who want to dismiss him call it a conspiracy theory. He describes it as group-think and scientists being unwilling or unable to go against the establishment. Which is obviously a thing in many "scientific" topics of cultural significance, much more so than conspiracy theories. As he notes, the lab leak theory was dismissed as a conspiracy theory, but now has mainstream acceptance.
The FDA page on Ivermectin is a big shrug about "not knowing enough just yet" about the drug.
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Without wanting to dig into this - is he saying it's better to get treated with Invermectin after you have Covid, than to get vaccinated against it?
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Without wanting to dig into this - is he saying it's better to get treated with Invermectin after you have Covid, than to get vaccinated against it?
@doctor-phibes said in Bret Weinstein and Heather - Darkhorse Podcast:
Without wanting to dig into this - is he saying it's better to get treated with Invermectin after you have Covid, than to get vaccinated against it?
Getting treated with Invermectin is not an available choice for most. He's in favor of people getting the vaccine, but wishes Invermectin could be used more broadly - he thinks it would essentially end the pandemic.
