Changing Grades

[George K]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Changing Grades:

I think we need to re-evaluate how we award Post of the Day.

Yes, and it should be at the freaking END of the day (unless it's @Klaus, for whom the end of the day will be sooner).

[Mik]

NO ONE asked either of you knobheads.

Harrumph.

[Doctor Phibes]

@George-K said in Changing Grades:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Changing Grades:

I think we need to re-evaluate how we award Post of the Day.

Yes, and it should be at the freaking END of the day (unless it's @Klaus, for whom the end of the day will be sooner).

The chances of it being Klaus seem pretty slim. His main connection to POTD's was when he accidentally deleted all of them.

[Catseye3]

@Mik said in Changing Grades:

NO ONE asked either of you knobheads.
Harrumph.

That's right. And furthermore, in my own defense, the post I marked POTD was so unparalleled in its brilliance that it is inconceivable that anyone could have surpassed it, anyway.

So there.

[Mik]

You are wise beyond your years.

[Doctor Phibes]

[Mik]

[Copper]

This will eliminate the possibility that a minority student might actually achieve.

Apparently they will get help whether they need it or not.

Remember when the Air Force said the last fighter pilot has already been born?

The last minority person ever to actually achieve good grades has already graduated.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in Changing Grades:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Changing Grades:

Being a manager roughly 10 years from now will be an absolute hoot.

I was thinking something along these lines as well. The purpose of education is to, ahem, educate indoctrinate.

So if these kiddos in suburban Chicago can't read, spell, or do simple math(s), what will they do when they leave high-school? After all, there are only so many burger-flipper jobs out there.

For years, OPRF had a very good reputation. I wonder how it is now.
FIFY.

[George K]

[Mik]

In other words:

"We have not approved this. YET."

[89th]

Found this on their website, it's the PDF (presentation) of the "grading" discussion part of the May 26th meeting: https://go.boarddocs.com/il/oprfhs/Board.nsf/files/CELJGA4D1599/$file/Professional Development and Grading BOE Presentation_.pdf

I love how the statement above says it's goal is to basically find a way to determine if a student has mastered academic content using an "objective, unbiased practice". Yeah, it's called... same test. Same criteria. Same grades. Equality for all.

Note from the document above, the following excerpts:

Summary of Findings

• Traditional grading practices perpetuate inequities and intensify the opportunity gap
• Integrating equitable assessment and grading practices into all academic and elective courses requires the collaborative effort of a team of educators committed to improvements that benefit all students
• Many OPRFHS teachers are successfully exploring and implementing more equitable grading practices such as: utilizing aspects of competency-based grading, eliminating zeros from the grade book, and encouraging and rewarding growth over time
• Teachers and administrators at OPRFHS will continue the process necessary to make grading improvements that reflect our core beliefs

Next Steps
Oak Park and River Forest High School administration and faculty will examine grading and reporting practices in academic and elective courses utilizing evidence-backed research and the racial equity analysis tool.

[George K]

That "Summary of Findings" word salad was Kamala-worthy.

[Catseye3]

@89th said in Changing Grades:

. . . and the racial equity analysis tool.

The phrase alone is enough to shiver your timbers, innit?

[89th]

I love how everything is bucketed into the untouchable "Equity" bucket. Does anyone know what that means, or is that just an aggregation of previous efforts for diversity, equality, and affirmative action policies?

@Horace come on...... touch that bucket.

[Horace]

@89th said in Changing Grades:

@Horace come on...... touch that bucket.

That’s what she said.

[Copper]

They will graduate a bunch of losers.

Losers beget losers.

Idiots

[Horace]

@89th said in Changing Grades:

I love how everything is bucketed into the untouchable "Equity" bucket. Does anyone know what that means, or is that just an aggregation of previous efforts for diversity, equality, and affirmative action policies?

@Horace come on...... touch that bucket.

I imagine equity is a word meant to distinguish between equality of opportunity (not necessarily equitable) and outcome (equitable). Inequality of outcome is a conveniently permanent and unsolvable problem. Equity is the carrot forever out of reach of the country, and shame that we don't have equity is the stick used on the masses to get their votes. The left tries so hard to keep slavery front and center of public consciousness, because it makes people feel all the same feelings they should be feeling about modern inequality of outcome. The 1619 project is literally about gathering Dem votes through mass public shaming of white skinned people. But, as they say, you can't make me feel badly about something, without my permission. (That's a trite saying and not always true in practice, but it sounds good.)

[89th]

The issue is that the solutions proposed to the "equality of opportunity" problem seem to be the "change the starting line" (e.g., affirmative action) or "change the finishing line" (e.g., grading) instead of how to improve what happens in the race itself.

And an even larger issue is the "equality of opportunity" is not a race thing at all. Plenty of whites and latinos start life at a significant disadvantage based on decisions of their parents... probably even more than blacks. Real solutions would be programs aimed at improving communities and economies (jobs). Only then are we on a path for permanent equity.

Also keep in mind I'm talking out our country where those in poverty live 100x better than those in other impoverished countries. Think not having fresh groceries within 5 miles is bad? Try hauling 50 mangos onto a train during rush hour in India to maybe make 2 bucks for the day.

[Mik]

Equity does not exist anywhere in nature, and it never will.