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    89th
    wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 04:01 last edited by
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    Minneapolis Mayor Frey (certainly on the liberal side of the political spectrum) is asked if he would defund the Minneapolis police department, aka no more police. He says no. And this is how he’s treated.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 04:09 last edited by
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      By "these protests" do you also mean the ones in Stuttgart today? And Sydney? And London? What are your opinions on those? How about everywhere else in the world where the worst didn't happen?

      The most extreme cases get the only coverage. Violence first, then extreme feel-good stories to wrap up the news hour. No one reports on incidents in which nothing happens. "Crowds gather and police remain cordial" is a headline you're never going to see. But more often than not the extremists have been in the minority.

      Please love yourself.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 08:25 last edited by
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        All this is academic, anyway. 89th nailed it: lunatic fringe.

        If any city official were mad enough to defund their police, guess what would happen forthwith? Yep, everybody would be crying, help! We need police up in here!

        You got to wonder how these people made it to adulthood.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          Jolly
          wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 09:41 last edited by
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          They may not have to worry. In today's hypersensitive climate, particularly in urban areas, what sane person wants to be a police officer?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • A Aqua Letifer
            7 Jun 2020, 04:09

            By "these protests" do you also mean the ones in Stuttgart today? And Sydney? And London? What are your opinions on those? How about everywhere else in the world where the worst didn't happen?

            The most extreme cases get the only coverage. Violence first, then extreme feel-good stories to wrap up the news hour. No one reports on incidents in which nothing happens. "Crowds gather and police remain cordial" is a headline you're never going to see. But more often than not the extremists have been in the minority.

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            George K
            wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 12:09 last edited by
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            @Aqua-Letifer said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

            By "these protests" do you also mean... London?

            Here you go. Throwing a brick at a horse.

            Throwing flares:

            Throwing bottles:

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Loki
              wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 12:10 last edited by
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              When a crowd comes together as one and everyone feels a part of one single consciousness it is an amazing high.

              Somehow none of them see the hang over after.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 12:19 last edited by
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                Tell that to the two lawyers sitting in an NYC jail right now.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  7 Jun 2020, 09:41

                  They may not have to worry. In today's hypersensitive climate, particularly in urban areas, what sane person wants to be a police officer?

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 13:59 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                  They may not have to worry. In today's hypersensitive climate, particularly in urban areas, what sane person wants to be a police officer?

                  I had police officer pegged as my nightmare profession when I was a kid. It has not increased in my estimation since then.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • G George K
                    7 Jun 2020, 12:09

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                    By "these protests" do you also mean... London?

                    Here you go. Throwing a brick at a horse.

                    Throwing flares:

                    Throwing bottles:

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 14:22 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                    By "these protests" do you also mean... London?

                    Here you go. Throwing a brick at a horse.

                    Throwing flares:

                    Throwing bottles:

                    If you'd like, I can see your entries and double them with social media posts showing peaceful protests. Of course the bad shit is happening. But what I'm saying is that's not all that's going on. 89th's claim that these are all fringe radical lemmings is ridiculous.

                    Seriously, if you want examples just let me know how many you need to be convinced that peaceful protests are happening.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • A Aqua Letifer
                      7 Jun 2020, 14:22

                      @George-K said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                      By "these protests" do you also mean... London?

                      Here you go. Throwing a brick at a horse.

                      Throwing flares:

                      Throwing bottles:

                      If you'd like, I can see your entries and double them with social media posts showing peaceful protests. Of course the bad shit is happening. But what I'm saying is that's not all that's going on. 89th's claim that these are all fringe radical lemmings is ridiculous.

                      Seriously, if you want examples just let me know how many you need to be convinced that peaceful protests are happening.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 14:26 last edited by
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                      @Aqua-Letifer

                      I would agree that 90% of the protests are peaceful, maybe even 95%.

                      It only takes 1% to ruin everything. A few weeks ago it was how just one person could infect 100. We were beat over the head with that. And then multiply that and suddenly we would be at crisis Covid levels again. And you get 2 for the price of one as the inner city economies get wiped out.

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                        7 Jun 2020, 14:26

                        @Aqua-Letifer

                        I would agree that 90% of the protests are peaceful, maybe even 95%.

                        It only takes 1% to ruin everything. A few weeks ago it was how just one person could infect 100. We were beat over the head with that. And then multiply that and suddenly we would be at crisis Covid levels again. And you get 2 for the price of one as the inner city economies get wiped out.

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 14:27 last edited by
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                        @Loki said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                        @Aqua-Letifer

                        I would agree that 90% of the protests are peaceful, maybe even 95%.

                        It only takes 1% to ruin everything.

                        Absolutely true.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 14:34 last edited by
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                          Our best current practical example of one person ruining everything would be a bad white cop doing a bad thing to a black person, which ruins the whole society.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            7 Jun 2020, 14:27

                            @Loki said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                            @Aqua-Letifer

                            I would agree that 90% of the protests are peaceful, maybe even 95%.

                            It only takes 1% to ruin everything.

                            Absolutely true.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 16:04 last edited by
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                            @Loki said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                            @Aqua-Letifer

                            I would agree that 90% of the protests are peaceful, maybe even 95%.

                            It only takes 1% to ruin everything.

                            Absolutely true.

                            The concept might be true.

                            Of course the numbers are just wild guesses with no basis in fact whatsoever.

                            Substitute the words big and little for a more accurate post.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 16:39 last edited by
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                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                89th
                                wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 16:42 last edited by
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                                @Aqua-Letifer said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                                By "these protests" do you also mean the ones in Stuttgart today? And Sydney? And London? What are your opinions on those? How about everywhere else in the world where the worst didn't happen?

                                Fair, for context, I see the spectrum like this:

                                • Looters (obv)
                                • Rioters (obv)
                                • Protesters Level 3 (claim they’re peaceful but don’t clear areas when asked then get mad when they are forced)
                                • Protesters Level 2 (peaceful but with actual demands) <- where I see the folks in this clip
                                • Protesters Level 1 (peaceful, mostly lemmings seeking catharsis, often driven by white guilt, following the latest outrage trend, includes most overseas events)

                                Certainly there’s overlap between each level.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 16:51 last edited by
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                                  You will never convince me that overseas demonstrations are spontaneous, unsponsored events.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik
                                    7 Jun 2020, 16:51

                                    You will never convince me that overseas demonstrations are spontaneous, unsponsored events.

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                                    Loki
                                    wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 19:03 last edited by
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                                    @Mik said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                                    You will never convince me that overseas demonstrations are spontaneous, unsponsored events.

                                    It’s great for them when the US is in trouble, regardless. Always try and unseat or create trouble for #1, I don’t care who you are.

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                                      7 Jun 2020, 14:22

                                      @George-K said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                                      By "these protests" do you also mean... London?

                                      Here you go. Throwing a brick at a horse.

                                      Throwing flares:

                                      Throwing bottles:

                                      If you'd like, I can see your entries and double them with social media posts showing peaceful protests. Of course the bad shit is happening. But what I'm saying is that's not all that's going on. 89th's claim that these are all fringe radical lemmings is ridiculous.

                                      Seriously, if you want examples just let me know how many you need to be convinced that peaceful protests are happening.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 01:05 last edited by Jolly 6 Aug 2020, 04:51
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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                                      @George-K said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in This is how fringe these protesters are:

                                      By "these protests" do you also mean... London?

                                      Here you go. Throwing a brick at a horse.

                                      Throwing flares:

                                      Throwing bottles:

                                      If you'd like, I can see your entries and double them with social media posts showing peaceful protests. Of course the bad shit is happening. But what I'm saying is that's not all that's going on. 89th's claim that these are all fringe radical lemmings is ridiculous.

                                      Seriously, if you want examples just let me know how many you need to be convinced that peaceful protests are happening.

                                      Tell that to the people who have died in the protests. Shucks, I'd like to see you convince that London cop who just played head tag with a lamp post.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Rainman
                                        wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 03:28 last edited by
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                                        Aqua:

                                        Seriously, if you want examples just let me know how many you need to be convinced that peaceful protests are happening.

                                        1,423 please.
                                        And I hope you are a man of your word.
                                        Take your time. By 8:30 am would be soon enough.
                                        OK, 9:00 am, I'm willing to be flexible.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 8 Jun 2020, 11:40 last edited by
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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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