The NFL
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 15:08 last edited by jon-nyc 6 Jun 2020, 15:13
Seems they’ll have no choice but to backpedal on the kneeling, etc.
How far will it go? A BLM or BLM-inspired patch on all the uniforms? A formal kneeling ceremony before each game? Canonize Kaepernick in some way?
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 15:15 last edited by Copper 6 Jun 2020, 15:16
Ticket prices will be based on skin color.
Part of the reparations package
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 15:20 last edited by
It will be interesting to watch, but I'll only hear about it as I have been done with the NFL for a couple years now. There will be huge peer pressure on the teams to kneel during the anthem. Probably lots of fans in the stands will be kneeling if there's room to do so. That will be the most interesting part to see.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 15:20 last edited by
And what happens to their viewership?
Does the anti-kneeling crowd just complain and tune in anyway?
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 15:23 last edited by Horace 6 Jun 2020, 15:24
I haven't been for a couple years. The extent to which Aaron Rodgers is a douche was a main consideration. I used to feel like I really liked the players, I stopped feeling that way at some point. He's a sanctimonious woke social climber who abandoned his parents and siblings when he hit it big. Yuck.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 15:38 last edited by
At this point if kneeling means healing I don’t care anymore. Kap won’t embarrass himself by going on the field though.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 15:40 last edited by
Re the rest of your post, I think it will be more than lots of players kneeling.
I think the NFL will formally recognize it somehow. At a minimum the kneeling will be sanctioned and organized. But my guess is they’ll do more.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 15:41 last edited by
Yes but I do not think they will organize kneeling during the anthem. That will be widespread but only based on peer pressure. At least that's my bet.
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Re the rest of your post, I think it will be more than lots of players kneeling.
I think the NFL will formally recognize it somehow. At a minimum the kneeling will be sanctioned and organized. But my guess is they’ll do more.
wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 15:42 last edited byRe the rest of your post, I think it will be more than lots of players kneeling.
I think the NFL will formally recognize it somehow. At a minimum the kneeling will be sanctioned and organized. But my guess is they’ll do more.
We stop for the national anthem, we can stop for a litany of all the things we want from a virtuous society, in fact we can dedicate the first half hour for a civics lesson before every game for all I care. I’ll tune in after it’s over.
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Yes but I do not think they will organize kneeling during the anthem. That will be widespread but only based on peer pressure. At least that's my bet.
wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 15:44 last edited byYes but I do not think they will organize kneeling during the anthem. That will be widespread but only based on peer pressure. At least that's my bet.
Yeah, my first thought was they’d try to do something organized but separate from the anthem. But didn’t they try that before? And I agree about the peer pressure. Much worse than earlier.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 17:07 last edited by
I never had a problem with the kneeling for the anthem.
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The Anthem and the Flag are representative of our nation, not the military. When we recognize our flag and sing the anthem, it is to honor our nation not just our military. It's to honor the ideals and the freedoms that this country was founded on. Yes, the military and their sacrifices are part of it, but so are the sacrifices of the coal miner working 60 hours a week trying to get his son into college for a better life. To strictly reduce the flag and anthem to being about the military dishonors this nation.
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Sitting on the bench was disrespectful. Taking a knee is not. Especially in football. We always started every practice and game and ended every practice and game by taking a knee and listening to our coach. Heck, we even had a prayer before the game while taking a knee. That's not allowed now, but I suppose taking a knee for the prayer was disrespectful to God?
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 17:17 last edited by
All of this is so stupid. And to answer your question, it’ll be a lot of peer pressure kneeling (lemmings seeking catharsis) but ultimately most will tune in anyway and complain. Nothing new, most fans complain during the game already!
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All of this is so stupid. And to answer your question, it’ll be a lot of peer pressure kneeling (lemmings seeking catharsis) but ultimately most will tune in anyway and complain. Nothing new, most fans complain during the game already!
wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 17:21 last edited byAll of this is so stupid. And to answer your question, it’ll be a lot of peer pressure kneeling (lemmings seeking catharsis) but ultimately most will tune in anyway and complain. Nothing new, most fans complain during the game already!
Hey it got the NFL on the front page again and people thinking about football season. The marketing aspect is not bad.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 17:29 last edited by
Taking a knee is disrespectful, that is the point.
It is definitely not meaningless.
The player who doesn't kneel will be shunned by teammates and hated by ESPN.
The players who kneel will be derided by fans, if they ever come back.
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Taking a knee is disrespectful, that is the point.
It is definitely not meaningless.
The player who doesn't kneel will be shunned by teammates and hated by ESPN.
The players who kneel will be derided by fans, if they ever come back.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 17:46 last edited by
Kneeling for the anthem is an act of intended disrespect, as Copper notes.
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Taking a knee is disrespectful, that is the point.
It is definitely not meaningless.
The player who doesn't kneel will be shunned by teammates and hated by ESPN.
The players who kneel will be derided by fans, if they ever come back.
wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 17:47 last edited byTaking a knee is disrespectful, that is the point.
It is definitely not meaningless.
The player who doesn't kneel will be shunned by teammates and hated by ESPN.
The players who kneel will be derided by fans, if they ever come back.
I don’t know, I think a good compromise is a series of “anthems” prior to every event where every in and out group gets a three minute moment. We can celebrate all the religions and all the points of view and all the people in the stands can watch. Rather than one event that show disgust of another side we can have multiple mini events to celebrate. Heck I might even have a bunch of floats go around in a circle around the edge of any field.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 17:58 last edited by
that we are even discussing this is an indicator of how low we have fallen. Or how woke we are. It's all the same thing.
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wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 18:08 last edited by
Hey, at least they're not kneeling on somebody's neck.