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@Horace So you won’t be watching Packers games this year?
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I haven't been for a couple years. The extent to which Aaron Rodgers is a douche was a main consideration. I used to feel like I really liked the players, I stopped feeling that way at some point. He's a sanctimonious woke social climber who abandoned his parents and siblings when he hit it big. Yuck.
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Re the rest of your post, I think it will be more than lots of players kneeling.
I think the NFL will formally recognize it somehow. At a minimum the kneeling will be sanctioned and organized. But my guess is they’ll do more.
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Re the rest of your post, I think it will be more than lots of players kneeling.
I think the NFL will formally recognize it somehow. At a minimum the kneeling will be sanctioned and organized. But my guess is they’ll do more.
We stop for the national anthem, we can stop for a litany of all the things we want from a virtuous society, in fact we can dedicate the first half hour for a civics lesson before every game for all I care. I’ll tune in after it’s over.
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Yes but I do not think they will organize kneeling during the anthem. That will be widespread but only based on peer pressure. At least that's my bet.
Yeah, my first thought was they’d try to do something organized but separate from the anthem. But didn’t they try that before? And I agree about the peer pressure. Much worse than earlier.
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I never had a problem with the kneeling for the anthem.
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The Anthem and the Flag are representative of our nation, not the military. When we recognize our flag and sing the anthem, it is to honor our nation not just our military. It's to honor the ideals and the freedoms that this country was founded on. Yes, the military and their sacrifices are part of it, but so are the sacrifices of the coal miner working 60 hours a week trying to get his son into college for a better life. To strictly reduce the flag and anthem to being about the military dishonors this nation.
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Sitting on the bench was disrespectful. Taking a knee is not. Especially in football. We always started every practice and game and ended every practice and game by taking a knee and listening to our coach. Heck, we even had a prayer before the game while taking a knee. That's not allowed now, but I suppose taking a knee for the prayer was disrespectful to God?
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All of this is so stupid. And to answer your question, it’ll be a lot of peer pressure kneeling (lemmings seeking catharsis) but ultimately most will tune in anyway and complain. Nothing new, most fans complain during the game already!
Hey it got the NFL on the front page again and people thinking about football season. The marketing aspect is not bad.
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Taking a knee is disrespectful, that is the point.
It is definitely not meaningless.
The player who doesn't kneel will be shunned by teammates and hated by ESPN.
The players who kneel will be derided by fans, if they ever come back.
I don’t know, I think a good compromise is a series of “anthems” prior to every event where every in and out group gets a three minute moment. We can celebrate all the religions and all the points of view and all the people in the stands can watch. Rather than one event that show disgust of another side we can have multiple mini events to celebrate. Heck I might even have a bunch of floats go around in a circle around the edge of any field.
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Hey, at least they're not kneeling on somebody's neck.
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So who is it disrespectful to?
By the way, the kneeling idea was given to Kaepernick by several retired NFL players that were also military vets... That's why he stopped sitting on the bench.
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I can't really think of a milder form of protest.
And when did it become a requirement that protest had to be respectful? Isn't the whole point of it that they're pointing something they're deeply unhappy about?
It certainly beats throwing bricks.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The NFL:
I can't really think of a milder form of protest.
And when did it become a requirement that protest had to be respectful? Isn't the whole point of it that they're pointing something they're deeply unhappy about?
It certainly beats throwing bricks.
I think the kneeling is meant to signify that you feel appropriate feels. As it happens, the kneeling also makes some people feel other feels which they find appropriate. I am not claiming there is a right or wrong side here, it's just feeling of feels and I'm not going to judge. The interesting part is that the NFL has to cater to its fans and players, and they have opposing feels around this issue.
