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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    And what happens to their viewership?

    Does the anti-kneeling crowd just complain and tune in anyway?

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      jon-nyc
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      #5

      @Horace So you won’t be watching Packers games this year?

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
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        I haven't been for a couple years. The extent to which Aaron Rodgers is a douche was a main consideration. I used to feel like I really liked the players, I stopped feeling that way at some point. He's a sanctimonious woke social climber who abandoned his parents and siblings when he hit it big. Yuck.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • L Offline
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          Loki
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          At this point if kneeling means healing I don’t care anymore. Kap won’t embarrass himself by going on the field though.

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            Re the rest of your post, I think it will be more than lots of players kneeling.

            I think the NFL will formally recognize it somehow. At a minimum the kneeling will be sanctioned and organized. But my guess is they’ll do more.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              Yes but I do not think they will organize kneeling during the anthem. That will be widespread but only based on peer pressure. At least that's my bet.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Re the rest of your post, I think it will be more than lots of players kneeling.

                I think the NFL will formally recognize it somehow. At a minimum the kneeling will be sanctioned and organized. But my guess is they’ll do more.

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                Loki
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                @jon-nyc said in The NFL:

                Re the rest of your post, I think it will be more than lots of players kneeling.

                I think the NFL will formally recognize it somehow. At a minimum the kneeling will be sanctioned and organized. But my guess is they’ll do more.

                We stop for the national anthem, we can stop for a litany of all the things we want from a virtuous society, in fact we can dedicate the first half hour for a civics lesson before every game for all I care. I’ll tune in after it’s over.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  Yes but I do not think they will organize kneeling during the anthem. That will be widespread but only based on peer pressure. At least that's my bet.

                  jon-nycJ Offline
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                  @Horace said in The NFL:

                  Yes but I do not think they will organize kneeling during the anthem. That will be widespread but only based on peer pressure. At least that's my bet.

                  Yeah, my first thought was they’d try to do something organized but separate from the anthem. But didn’t they try that before? And I agree about the peer pressure. Much worse than earlier.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    I never had a problem with the kneeling for the anthem.

                    1. The Anthem and the Flag are representative of our nation, not the military. When we recognize our flag and sing the anthem, it is to honor our nation not just our military. It's to honor the ideals and the freedoms that this country was founded on. Yes, the military and their sacrifices are part of it, but so are the sacrifices of the coal miner working 60 hours a week trying to get his son into college for a better life. To strictly reduce the flag and anthem to being about the military dishonors this nation.

                    2. Sitting on the bench was disrespectful. Taking a knee is not. Especially in football. We always started every practice and game and ended every practice and game by taking a knee and listening to our coach. Heck, we even had a prayer before the game while taking a knee. That's not allowed now, but I suppose taking a knee for the prayer was disrespectful to God?

                    The Brad

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                    • 89th8 Online
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                      All of this is so stupid. And to answer your question, it’ll be a lot of peer pressure kneeling (lemmings seeking catharsis) but ultimately most will tune in anyway and complain. Nothing new, most fans complain during the game already!

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        All of this is so stupid. And to answer your question, it’ll be a lot of peer pressure kneeling (lemmings seeking catharsis) but ultimately most will tune in anyway and complain. Nothing new, most fans complain during the game already!

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                        @89th said in The NFL:

                        All of this is so stupid. And to answer your question, it’ll be a lot of peer pressure kneeling (lemmings seeking catharsis) but ultimately most will tune in anyway and complain. Nothing new, most fans complain during the game already!

                        Hey it got the NFL on the front page again and people thinking about football season. The marketing aspect is not bad.

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                        • CopperC Offline
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                          Copper
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                          Taking a knee is disrespectful, that is the point.

                          It is definitely not meaningless.

                          The player who doesn't kneel will be shunned by teammates and hated by ESPN.

                          The players who kneel will be derided by fans, if they ever come back.

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            Taking a knee is disrespectful, that is the point.

                            It is definitely not meaningless.

                            The player who doesn't kneel will be shunned by teammates and hated by ESPN.

                            The players who kneel will be derided by fans, if they ever come back.

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            @Copper said in The NFL:

                            Taking a knee is disrespectful, that is the point.

                            Wow, all those Christians disrespecting God when they pray...

                            The Brad

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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
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                              Kneeling for the anthem is an act of intended disrespect, as Copper notes.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                Taking a knee is disrespectful, that is the point.

                                It is definitely not meaningless.

                                The player who doesn't kneel will be shunned by teammates and hated by ESPN.

                                The players who kneel will be derided by fans, if they ever come back.

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                                Loki
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                                @Copper said in The NFL:

                                Taking a knee is disrespectful, that is the point.

                                It is definitely not meaningless.

                                The player who doesn't kneel will be shunned by teammates and hated by ESPN.

                                The players who kneel will be derided by fans, if they ever come back.

                                I don’t know, I think a good compromise is a series of “anthems” prior to every event where every in and out group gets a three minute moment. We can celebrate all the religions and all the points of view and all the people in the stands can watch. Rather than one event that show disgust of another side we can have multiple mini events to celebrate. Heck I might even have a bunch of floats go around in a circle around the edge of any field.

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
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                                  that we are even discussing this is an indicator of how low we have fallen. Or how woke we are. It's all the same thing.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    Hey, at least they're not kneeling on somebody's neck.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #21

                                      So who is it disrespectful to?

                                      By the way, the kneeling idea was given to Kaepernick by several retired NFL players that were also military vets... That's why he stopped sitting on the bench.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        I can't really think of a milder form of protest.

                                        And when did it become a requirement that protest had to be respectful? Isn't the whole point of it that they're pointing something they're deeply unhappy about?

                                        It certainly beats throwing bricks.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                                          #23

                                          It took them four years to find an example that really worked, that everyone could agree on. That says to me racism is not nearly the problem claimed.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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