Baby Formula
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"Do not take."
This is, of course, a negligible amount, in the big scheme of things.
One of the causes cited is US trade policy, including a provision signed into the USMCA (Trump's revision to NAFTA) that discourages importation of baby formula from Canada.
Other causes, perhaps more important:
FDA regulation of formula is so stringent that most of the stuff that comes out of Europe is illegal to buy here due to technicalities like labeling requirements. Nevertheless, one study found that many European formulas meet the FDA nutritional guidelines—and, in some ways, might even be better than American formula, because the European Union bans certain sugars, such as corn syrup, and requires formulas to have a higher share of lactose.
Yeah, I'd guess that FDA regulations are a bigger factor (and they're mentioned first in the article) than the re-negotiated NAFTA agreement.
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 18:33 last edited by Doctor Phibes
Thanks, George - apparently, there's a rightwing propaganda machine, too.
It makes no sense considering the numbers involved to blame all this on giving it to illegals.
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@Doctor-Phibes No worries. She hangs around social media for ten minutes, she'll have more solutions than she'll ever be able to use.
wrote on 13 May 2022, 19:40 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Baby Formula:
@Doctor-Phibes No worries. She hangs around social media for ten minutes, she'll have more solutions than she'll ever be able to use.
And that's the truth. The FDA is screaming it's unsafe, but millions of kids have been raised on homemade formula.
Hell, I've got my doctor's notes...IIRC, they were introducing pureed TABLE FOOD at around six weeks...
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 22:57 last edited by
How about "newspaper readers?"
Baby Formula Is Hard to Find. Brands and Stores Are Divided Over Why.
Retailers and formula makers agree that out-of-stocks are a problem. They don’t agree on how severe it is and who is to blame. Chains like Walmart Inc. WMT 0.39%▲ and CVS Health Corp. CVS -0.78%▼ say the manufacturers are having supply issues; formula makers say retailers aren’t getting product to stores once it is delivered.
“The shelves are just bare,” said Derval Kenny, 65, of Rye, N.Y., who has been trying to help find Similac formula for two infant grandsons who live in Connecticut and New Jersey. “To me, there should be an uproar.”
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Ms. Kenny, whose grandsons are five and six months old, said she has driven to stores across her county and into neighboring Connecticut and placed an order on Amazon last week that hasn’t yet been delivered. While she hasn’t been able to find the premixed formula bottles that her grandsons use, she has found powdered versions, she said.
The shortages are intermittent and vary based on retailer and location, said Krishnakumar Davey, president of strategic analytics at IRI, a retail research firm. Nationwide, in-stock levels for baby formula and food are slightly higher than for food products overall. However, Mr. Davey said, some of the nation’s 10 largest retailers had more than 20% of baby formula out of stock the week ended Jan. 2, typical of recent months. An out-of-stock rate above 10% is considered a problem, he said.
That was in January.
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 23:23 last edited by
Fortune tellers!
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wrote on 14 May 2022, 00:55 last edited by
This is one of those things that I had no idea was so stupidly political until I had an infant of my own. What possible reason could anybody have for having an opinion on whether or not other people's kids drink formula?
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wrote on 15 May 2022, 11:55 last edited by
Now, Biden would be more concerned if it was an Ensure crisis...
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J Jolly referenced this topic on 16 May 2022, 00:29
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wrote on 16 May 2022, 18:11 last edited by
Maybe Predient Biden should get involved like Premier Kim does in DPRK
(http://www.vok.rep.kp/index.php/Data_detail_common/getDetail/iee220413006/8/en)
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wrote on 16 May 2022, 18:26 last edited by
The Asian Corn Pop?
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wrote on 22 May 2022, 22:45 last edited by
Mrs. George and I were on the way to our riding lesson this afternoon, and she asked me to explain the cause(s) of this crisis.
In a tl;dr version, can someone womansplain this to me?
Limited production in the US...? Why?
Limited imports...? Why?
Has this been brewing for a while...? And now you noticed? Should've had a crystal ball, I suppose. -
wrote on 23 May 2022, 01:07 last edited by
IIRC, WSJ did a story on the shortage in February. CNN did one last fall.
It has been said it took the Whitehouse 6 months to come up with the "Ultra MAGA" term. They were too busy to think about feeding babies...
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wrote on 23 May 2022, 01:55 last edited by
Now you think it's the government's responsibility to feed babies, eh? Did you think so too when discussing public welfare programs?
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wrote on 23 May 2022, 02:40 last edited by
I think it's the government's business to not get in the way businesses making baby formula.
Besides, I'm the guy that wants to keep babies alive. You're the guy that wants to cut babies to pieces in the womb and then suck them out with a vacuum, to have the bloody body parts splat into a plastic container.
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I think it's the government's business to not get in the way businesses making baby formula.
Besides, I'm the guy that wants to keep babies alive. You're the guy that wants to cut babies to pieces in the womb and then suck them out with a vacuum, to have the bloody body parts splat into a plastic container.
wrote on 23 May 2022, 07:27 last edited by@Jolly said in Baby Formula:
I think it's the government's business to not get in the way businesses making baby formula.
Consider what happened when a government did not sufficiently got in the way businesses making baby formula:
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wrote on 23 May 2022, 11:21 last edited by
And the Chinese tort system is what?
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How about "newspaper readers?"
Baby Formula Is Hard to Find. Brands and Stores Are Divided Over Why.
Retailers and formula makers agree that out-of-stocks are a problem. They don’t agree on how severe it is and who is to blame. Chains like Walmart Inc. WMT 0.39%▲ and CVS Health Corp. CVS -0.78%▼ say the manufacturers are having supply issues; formula makers say retailers aren’t getting product to stores once it is delivered.
“The shelves are just bare,” said Derval Kenny, 65, of Rye, N.Y., who has been trying to help find Similac formula for two infant grandsons who live in Connecticut and New Jersey. “To me, there should be an uproar.”
Advertisement - Scroll to Continue
Ms. Kenny, whose grandsons are five and six months old, said she has driven to stores across her county and into neighboring Connecticut and placed an order on Amazon last week that hasn’t yet been delivered. While she hasn’t been able to find the premixed formula bottles that her grandsons use, she has found powdered versions, she said.
The shortages are intermittent and vary based on retailer and location, said Krishnakumar Davey, president of strategic analytics at IRI, a retail research firm. Nationwide, in-stock levels for baby formula and food are slightly higher than for food products overall. However, Mr. Davey said, some of the nation’s 10 largest retailers had more than 20% of baby formula out of stock the week ended Jan. 2, typical of recent months. An out-of-stock rate above 10% is considered a problem, he said.
That was in January.
wrote on 10 Jun 2022, 11:01 last edited by@George-K said in Baby Formula:
How about "newspaper readers?"
The whistleblower complaint about Abbott labs came forward in February. A month into the Biden presidency.
Abbott and the Food and Drug Administration were alerted to a whistleblower complaint about Abbott's Sturgis infant formula plant as far back as February 2021, ABC News has confirmed.
This complaint, filed with the U.S. Labor Department's Occupational Safety and Health Administration, alleges quality control concerns at Abbott's formula plant in Sturgis, Michigan -- a year before the company's massive recall and shutdown in February 2022 following contamination concerns, which helped exacerbate a nationwide shortage in baby formula, according to sources familiar with the matter.
OSHA received a complaint from a whistleblower on Feb 16, 2021, and sent a copy three days later to the FDA and Abbott, according to a person familiar with the matter.
The complaint raises further questions about when both Abbott and federal health authorities first knew about quality and contamination concerns at the Sturgis plant, and why it took so long for action to be taken.
The OSHA complaint, first reported by WSJ, alleges problems at the Sturgis plant like faulty equipment in need of repair or upgrade and inadequate safety validation for released product.
It was filed several months before similar allegations were made in another whistleblower report, which flagged contamination concerns at the Sturgis plant in October 2021, according to sources familiar with the matter.
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wrote on 11 Jun 2022, 03:40 last edited by
IIRC, there have not been any serious adverse effects directly linked back to the formula.
Could not the plant been allowed to continue to operate, as long as federal inspectors were monitoring the process?
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wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 12:26 last edited by
Now, the rest of the story …
If anyone still cares, Bloomberg published a nice article with timeline of events leading up to and the subsequent resolution of the baby formula shortage of 2022, with hindsight analysis and stories of individuals adversely affected by the tainted formula, etc.
Anyone here still seeing impacts of baby formula shortage on people you personally know?
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wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 12:32 last edited by
Fortunately I’ve been breast fed all year.
