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Tell me about building a PC

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #124

    I want to use that PC to crank out some algorithm for optimizing fracking.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Aqua Letifer
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      #125

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      Please love yourself.

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        wrote on last edited by
        #126

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Tell me about building a PC:

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        lol

        This just might void your warranty. They have the CPU and all 4 GPUs being cooled with Liquid Nitrogen.
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        • markM Offline
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          mark
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          #127

          Just getting my feet wet with this whole overclocking business.

          It's pretty cool to watch measurable results happen with each tweak you make to the seemingly endless list of parameters.

          At any moment you can render the machine un-bootable and you have to be prepared to clear the bios and start again. You can create 2 XMP memory profiles that provide a templates you can save, but that doesn't save the cpu parameters. Still figuring it all out.

          Right now I have the Ryzen 5 3400G running 4.5 Mhz above it's "maximum clock speed" I am shooting for + 100Mhz.

          Learned that the processor's "boost mode" that lets it automatically increase the clock speed provides as maximum of 4.0 Ghz and is not turned on by default. Out of the box the processor was only running at 3.7 Ghz and it was not "turbo boosting".

          I turned off the factory boost all together and went for all cores running at a fixed frequency of 4.2045 Ghz.

          It's running Prime95 now and it is passing all the tests. The CPU core temps are elevated of course, but they are still in an optimum range of 70c.

          Baby steps...

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #128

            @jon-nyc ...did you ever build it?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • markM Offline
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              mark
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              #129

              Old PC with a 7200RPM 4TB Mechanical HD and 2TB SATA SSD
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              New Motherboard. The temporary Ryzen 5 3400G processor is limited to 3GB/sec. With the new processor, I am expecting 5GB/sec write speed and 7GB/sec read speed.

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              • KlausK Offline
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                #130

                The speed up at IO size of 512 bytes is only a very meager 6x or so. Aren’t you disappointed? I would be.

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  The speed up at IO size of 512 bytes is only a very meager 6x or so. Aren’t you disappointed? I would be.

                  markM Offline
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                  mark
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                  #131

                  @Klaus said in Tell me about building a PC:

                  The speed up at IO size of 512 bytes is only a very meager 6x or so. Aren’t you disappointed? I would be.

                  Nah. 6X is 6X! lol

                  It will be amazingly fast for the large files I deal with, in photography, audio and video project files. I don't do much video, these days. That can, and probably will change.

                  Actually, I am always impressed at the new found speed of a brand new computer that you build expressly for speed. Then it becomes the new normal and as little as 1 year later you start dreaming of a faster computer. But, if you do it correctly, that feeling might be delayed for as long as 6 or 7 years. That is what I attempting to do. Build a 7 to 10 year computer. Just like I did last time.

                  If all I did was internet browsing, shopping, social and anti-social networking, I would not even be looking at a new computer. My 10 year old i7 with 12 GB of ram and a 1 GB video card does just fine for that.

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                  • KlausK Offline
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                    #132

                    I'm just pulling your leg a little, Mark 😉

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      I'm just pulling your leg a little, Mark 😉

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                      mark
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #133

                      @Klaus 👽

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                      • KlausK Offline
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                        Klaus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #134

                        OK, you made me curious. Tried the same benchmark on the low-budget PC I built a few weeks ago. I think in total I paid less than $400: A cheap $100 motherboard, a <$100 SSD, RAM for $80, a $100 CPU.

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                        Does it depress you that the cheapest crap money can buy is still faster than your overclocked "money doesn't matter" build?

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                        • markM Offline
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                          mark
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #135

                          My build is not complete. Still running at half the speed. I thought I mentioned that.

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                          • KlausK Offline
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                            Klaus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #136

                            OK, then I'm relieved 😉

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                            • markM Offline
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                              mark
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #137

                              Not overclocked. The processor is not stable above 4.2Ghz.

                              I know that cheap stuff performs well. I am not about being cheap. I am not about being completely crazy about spending money otherwise I would spend $1500 on my video card and $4,500 on my processor alone. lol

                              As it is I am willing to spend $1,000 on my video card and $800 on my processor. And my motherboard was a complete indulgence, at $650, but I like it. So there!

                              I just bought a $189 motherboard, and 32GB of ram for this 4 core test processor. I am doing a "budget build" with it.

                              My "budget" just happens to be more than yours. lol

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #138

                                The budget build is complete. I decided I needed 64 GB of ram and I am testing the CPU AIO Water cooler that will ultimately end up in the big build.

                                Here it is after I replaced the 2 front 140mm factory fans with 3 120mm RGB fans. I have the GPU mounted vertically. It is nothing special (Radeon RX 560 w/4GB GDDR5 SDRAM) But it gets me 60fps in the new WoW expansion at graphics level 4. Not too shabby.

                                Love the 38" Ultra-Wide 3840x1600 LG monitor.

                                Picked up a Corsair K57 RGB Wireless Gaming keyboard and an MSI Clutch GM30 RGB 6 button, 6200 dpi, programmable gaming mouse.

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                                  Axtremus
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                                  #139

                                  https://gizmodo.com/someone-managed-to-overlock-a-14-year-old-intel-process-1845862632

                                  14 year old Intel Celeron D 347 processor overclocked to 8.36 GHz.

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                                  • markM Offline
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                                    mark
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #140

                                    The "Aquarium PC Build".

                                    The Lian Li 011D XL E-ATX case with tempered glass front and side.
                                    7 chassis fans. 6 filtered intake fans 3 side, 3 bottom, 1 exhaust (rear)
                                    2 CPU Radiator Exhaust Fans
                                    1 CPU water pump housing (the round device with the lighted ASUS ROG logo that syncs with the RGB setup of the fans and memory.

                                    All RGB controlled by MSIs Dragon Center.

                                    Over the top? Not by a long shot. Custom water cooling is calling me. lol

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                                    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE Motherboard
                                    AMD Ryzen 58006X 8 core 16 thread CPU (A 16 core / 32 thread 5950x is backordered)
                                    64 GB DDR4 3600 16/16/16/36 memory
                                    Sapphire AMD RADEON RX 6900XT GPU w/ 16 GB GDDR6 memory

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                                    • markM Offline
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                                      mark
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #141

                                      The Samsung Odessey G9 49" Ultra-Wide monitor arrived yesterday.

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                                      5120x1440 @240Hz Vertical Refresh Rate.

                                      Video Game is Black Desert Online. All graphics settings are maxed. Getting and average of 80 frames per second. Peaks at 120fps lows at 65fps.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #142

                                        We’ve reached Peak Markj.

                                        lol

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          We’ve reached Peak Markj.

                                          lol

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                                          mark
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #143

                                          @jon-nyc said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          We’ve reached Peak Markj.

                                          lol

                                          lol, not yet!

                                          Still waiting on the 16 core Ryzen 5950X. Of course the system will not look any different. It will just have double the cores and threads available.

                                          I also still have an Nvidia 3080 GPU on backorder for the other build.

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