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Tell me about building a PC

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    xenon
    wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 00:30 last edited by
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    That's some top notch gear. Reminds me of this rib against habitual upgraders:

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      mark
      wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 01:10 last edited by mark
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      lol

      So true. I am, however, upgrading from a 1st Gen i7.

      I am waiting for "Big Navi" the first batch of them, are being released on Wednesday. I have a few people going to battle for one or two of them. I hope to get at least one.

      I am also waiting for the 5950X processors. I have two on pre-order at B&H. The last update from B&H estimated 21/21 for ship date.

      And depending on how well the 5950X overclocks with the Noctua air cooler, I might just yet, get an AIO. Custom loop will come eventually.

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        xenon
        wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 19:01 last edited by
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        Here's some inspiration for anyone looking to do a more natural PC build.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 19:06 last edited by
          #124

          I want to use that PC to crank out some algorithm for optimizing fracking.

          You were warned.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 19:32 last edited by
            #125

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            Please love yourself.

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              17 Nov 2020, 19:32

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              mark
              wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 23:59 last edited by
              #126

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Tell me about building a PC:

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              lol

              This just might void your warranty. They have the CPU and all 4 GPUs being cooled with Liquid Nitrogen.
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                mark
                wrote on 18 Nov 2020, 00:48 last edited by
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                Just getting my feet wet with this whole overclocking business.

                It's pretty cool to watch measurable results happen with each tweak you make to the seemingly endless list of parameters.

                At any moment you can render the machine un-bootable and you have to be prepared to clear the bios and start again. You can create 2 XMP memory profiles that provide a templates you can save, but that doesn't save the cpu parameters. Still figuring it all out.

                Right now I have the Ryzen 5 3400G running 4.5 Mhz above it's "maximum clock speed" I am shooting for + 100Mhz.

                Learned that the processor's "boost mode" that lets it automatically increase the clock speed provides as maximum of 4.0 Ghz and is not turned on by default. Out of the box the processor was only running at 3.7 Ghz and it was not "turbo boosting".

                I turned off the factory boost all together and went for all cores running at a fixed frequency of 4.2045 Ghz.

                It's running Prime95 now and it is passing all the tests. The CPU core temps are elevated of course, but they are still in an optimum range of 70c.

                Baby steps...

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                  George K
                  wrote on 18 Nov 2020, 12:50 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc ...did you ever build it?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    wrote on 21 Nov 2020, 23:32 last edited by
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                    Old PC with a 7200RPM 4TB Mechanical HD and 2TB SATA SSD
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                    New Motherboard. The temporary Ryzen 5 3400G processor is limited to 3GB/sec. With the new processor, I am expecting 5GB/sec write speed and 7GB/sec read speed.

                    ATTO-Disk-Benchmark-4-01-0f1-Ryzen3400-G-X570-1-GB-SSD-m2-2020-11-21-17-00-24.jpg

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                      Klaus
                      wrote on 22 Nov 2020, 07:22 last edited by
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                      The speed up at IO size of 512 bytes is only a very meager 6x or so. Arenโ€™t you disappointed? I would be.

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                      • KlausK Klaus
                        22 Nov 2020, 07:22

                        The speed up at IO size of 512 bytes is only a very meager 6x or so. Arenโ€™t you disappointed? I would be.

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                        wrote on 22 Nov 2020, 14:09 last edited by
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                        @Klaus said in Tell me about building a PC:

                        The speed up at IO size of 512 bytes is only a very meager 6x or so. Arenโ€™t you disappointed? I would be.

                        Nah. 6X is 6X! lol

                        It will be amazingly fast for the large files I deal with, in photography, audio and video project files. I don't do much video, these days. That can, and probably will change.

                        Actually, I am always impressed at the new found speed of a brand new computer that you build expressly for speed. Then it becomes the new normal and as little as 1 year later you start dreaming of a faster computer. But, if you do it correctly, that feeling might be delayed for as long as 6 or 7 years. That is what I attempting to do. Build a 7 to 10 year computer. Just like I did last time.

                        If all I did was internet browsing, shopping, social and anti-social networking, I would not even be looking at a new computer. My 10 year old i7 with 12 GB of ram and a 1 GB video card does just fine for that.

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on 22 Nov 2020, 14:10 last edited by
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                          I'm just pulling your leg a little, Mark ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                          • KlausK Klaus
                            22 Nov 2020, 14:10

                            I'm just pulling your leg a little, Mark ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            mark
                            wrote on 22 Nov 2020, 14:11 last edited by
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                            @Klaus ๐Ÿ‘ฝ

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on 22 Nov 2020, 14:47 last edited by
                              #134

                              OK, you made me curious. Tried the same benchmark on the low-budget PC I built a few weeks ago. I think in total I paid less than $400: A cheap $100 motherboard, a <$100 SSD, RAM for $80, a $100 CPU.

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                              Does it depress you that the cheapest crap money can buy is still faster than your overclocked "money doesn't matter" build?

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                                wrote on 22 Nov 2020, 15:05 last edited by
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                                My build is not complete. Still running at half the speed. I thought I mentioned that.

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                                  Klaus
                                  wrote on 22 Nov 2020, 15:06 last edited by
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                                  OK, then I'm relieved ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                    mark
                                    wrote on 22 Nov 2020, 15:11 last edited by
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                                    Not overclocked. The processor is not stable above 4.2Ghz.

                                    I know that cheap stuff performs well. I am not about being cheap. I am not about being completely crazy about spending money otherwise I would spend $1500 on my video card and $4,500 on my processor alone. lol

                                    As it is I am willing to spend $1,000 on my video card and $800 on my processor. And my motherboard was a complete indulgence, at $650, but I like it. So there!

                                    I just bought a $189 motherboard, and 32GB of ram for this 4 core test processor. I am doing a "budget build" with it.

                                    My "budget" just happens to be more than yours. lol

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                                      wrote on 3 Dec 2020, 01:02 last edited by
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                                      The budget build is complete. I decided I needed 64 GB of ram and I am testing the CPU AIO Water cooler that will ultimately end up in the big build.

                                      Here it is after I replaced the 2 front 140mm factory fans with 3 120mm RGB fans. I have the GPU mounted vertically. It is nothing special (Radeon RX 560 w/4GB GDDR5 SDRAM) But it gets me 60fps in the new WoW expansion at graphics level 4. Not too shabby.

                                      Love the 38" Ultra-Wide 3840x1600 LG monitor.

                                      Picked up a Corsair K57 RGB Wireless Gaming keyboard and an MSI Clutch GM30 RGB 6 button, 6200 dpi, programmable gaming mouse.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 02:32 last edited by
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                                        https://gizmodo.com/someone-managed-to-overlock-a-14-year-old-intel-process-1845862632

                                        14 year old Intel Celeron D 347 processor overclocked to 8.36 GHz.

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                                          wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 04:38 last edited by
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                                          The "Aquarium PC Build".

                                          The Lian Li 011D XL E-ATX case with tempered glass front and side.
                                          7 chassis fans. 6 filtered intake fans 3 side, 3 bottom, 1 exhaust (rear)
                                          2 CPU Radiator Exhaust Fans
                                          1 CPU water pump housing (the round device with the lighted ASUS ROG logo that syncs with the RGB setup of the fans and memory.

                                          All RGB controlled by MSIs Dragon Center.

                                          Over the top? Not by a long shot. Custom water cooling is calling me. lol

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                                          MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE Motherboard
                                          AMD Ryzen 58006X 8 core 16 thread CPU (A 16 core / 32 thread 5950x is backordered)
                                          64 GB DDR4 3600 16/16/16/36 memory
                                          Sapphire AMD RADEON RX 6900XT GPU w/ 16 GB GDDR6 memory

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