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    Jolly
    wrote on 3 May 2022, 22:03 last edited by
    #84

    Chant harder...

    https://babylonbee.com/news/after-chanting-all-night-crowd-of-worshippers-still-cant-get-moloch-to-answer-them

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J Jolly
      3 May 2022, 22:03

      Chant harder...

      https://babylonbee.com/news/after-chanting-all-night-crowd-of-worshippers-still-cant-get-moloch-to-answer-them

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      George K
      wrote on 3 May 2022, 22:13 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

      Chant harder...

      https://babylonbee.com/news/after-chanting-all-night-crowd-of-worshippers-still-cant-get-moloch-to-answer-them

      How long before these doofuses start taking selfies?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Ivorythumper
        wrote on 3 May 2022, 22:21 last edited by Ivorythumper 5 Mar 2022, 22:22
        #86

        The Leaker? An aide from Sotomayor

        If so, she should resign.

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        • I Ivorythumper
          3 May 2022, 22:21

          The Leaker? An aide from Sotomayor

          If so, she should resign.

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          George K
          wrote on 3 May 2022, 22:27 last edited by George K 5 Mar 2022, 22:27
          #87

          @Ivorythumper I saw that last night.

          Gotta wonder the motivation - galvanize the base before the midterms? Too soon....

          Do you think she was aware?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            3 May 2022, 22:27

            @Ivorythumper I saw that last night.

            Gotta wonder the motivation - galvanize the base before the midterms? Too soon....

            Do you think she was aware?

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            Ivorythumper
            wrote on 3 May 2022, 22:30 last edited by
            #88

            @George-K

            I hope she wasn't aware. If she was she should be impeached.

            Regardless, if it was her clerk, its an indelible stain on her reputation and she should resign. (Of course, Biden would just appoint another similar type to replace her -- it's more a matter of principle but having said that we know that won't happen).

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            • G George K
              3 May 2022, 22:27

              @Ivorythumper I saw that last night.

              Gotta wonder the motivation - galvanize the base before the midterms? Too soon....

              Do you think she was aware?

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              Copper
              wrote on 3 May 2022, 22:47 last edited by
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              @George-K said in Roe Overturned?:

              Do you think she was aware?

              All the democrat clerks drew lots to select the leaker.

              They all begged for the honor, while they chanted anti-Trump incantations

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                George K
                wrote on 3 May 2022, 22:48 last edited by
                #90

                Chelsea speaks:

                Oh, now the 2nd amendment is OK.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 3 May 2022, 23:00 last edited by
                  #91

                  Fox News Poll: Just over half favor banning abortions after 15 weeks

                  A leaked draft of Justice Samuel Alito’s majority opinion Monday showed the Court poised to overturn Roe v. Wade

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                  https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-just-over-half-favor-banning-abortions-after-15-weeks

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                  • G George K
                    3 May 2022, 21:36

                    Fauxahonatas rants speaks:

                    Have you seen a world where abortion occurs at 38 weeks?

                    Didn't think so.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 3 May 2022, 23:52 last edited by
                    #92

                    @George-K said in Roe Overturned?:

                    Fauxahonatas rants speaks:

                    .

                    All they’re doing is putting it back in the purview of the Democratic process (which she has always been hostile to, and designed the CFPB specifically to be isolated from it).

                    “Extremist” would have been finding a right to life in the “penumbra” of the constitution and outlawing abortion nationwide.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • G George K
                      3 May 2022, 22:27

                      @Ivorythumper I saw that last night.

                      Gotta wonder the motivation - galvanize the base before the midterms? Too soon....

                      Do you think she was aware?

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 3 May 2022, 23:54 last edited by jon-nyc 5 Mar 2022, 23:55
                      #93

                      @George-K said in Roe Overturned?:

                      @Ivorythumper I saw that last night.

                      Gotta wonder the motivation - galvanize the base before the midterms? Too soon....

                      Do you think she was aware?

                      You’re assuming a lot. All this guy is going on is that the journalist talked to this clerk 5 years ago when he was a student.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        3 May 2022, 23:54

                        @George-K said in Roe Overturned?:

                        @Ivorythumper I saw that last night.

                        Gotta wonder the motivation - galvanize the base before the midterms? Too soon....

                        Do you think she was aware?

                        You’re assuming a lot. All this guy is going on is that the journalist talked to this clerk 5 years ago when he was a student.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 3 May 2022, 23:58 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Roe Overturned?:

                        You’re assuming a lot. All this guy is going on is that the journalist talked to this clerk 5 years ago when he was a student.

                        I'm not assuming this was the guy, at all.

                        Sorry I wasn't clear.

                        It was intended as an "if" post.

                        OTOH, I haven't read anything about a different likely source.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 4 May 2022, 00:01 last edited by
                          #95

                          Funny thing is I actually posted that tweet last night then reflected on how devoid of evidence it is and deleted it.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • X xenon
                            3 May 2022, 17:40

                            @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Roe Overturned?:

                            It all comes down to 1 fundamental question. When is somebody recognized as being alive with all the essential human rights that come along with that?

                            Ding! Ding! Ding!

                            Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

                            The hard part is that both extremes believe the fetus is fundamentally the same thing from the microsecond after conception up until birth.

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                            Larry
                            wrote on 4 May 2022, 00:01 last edited by
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                            @xenon said in Roe Overturned?:

                            @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Roe Overturned?:

                            It all comes down to 1 fundamental question. When is somebody recognized as being alive with all the essential human rights that come along with that?

                            Ding! Ding! Ding!

                            Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

                            The hard part is that both extremes believe the fetus is fundamentally the same thing from the microsecond after conception up until birth.

                            No they don't. If they did there would be no controversy. One side believes it is a human being with all the rights that comes with that, the other side believes it is just a clump of cells like a tumor. 9ne side moderates this by compromising during the first 3 months, the other side believes you should be allowed to deliver it, wrap in in blankets and make it comfortable, and then calmly discuss with the mother whether or not to murder it or send it home with the mother. The only moderate view to be found on the Left is how old the baby has to be before you're not allowed to kill it.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              3 May 2022, 23:52

                              @George-K said in Roe Overturned?:

                              Fauxahonatas rants speaks:

                              .

                              All they’re doing is putting it back in the purview of the Democratic process (which she has always been hostile to, and designed the CFPB specifically to be isolated from it).

                              “Extremist” would have been finding a right to life in the “penumbra” of the constitution and outlawing abortion nationwide.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 4 May 2022, 00:05 last edited by George K 5 Apr 2022, 00:05
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                              @jon-nyc said in Roe Overturned?:

                              All they’re doing is putting it back in the purview of the Democratic (sic) process (which she has always been hostile to, and designed the CFPB specifically to be isolated from it).

                              FIFY, LOL - damn you, autocorrect.

                              “Extremist” would have been finding a right to life in the “penumbra” of the constitution and outlawing abortion nationwide.

                              "Among these rights are the right to life, liberty..."

                              Not in the Constitution, but, you get my point. The right to life is "self-evident" according to Franklin Jefferson. The question is when does "life" begin?

                              In today's environment, perhaps the appropriate question is "When does 'self-sustaining' life begin."

                              It's the "where do you draw the line" question we, and others, have been debating forever. It's a ferociously difficult question to answer without being an "extremist" at either end. And the answer to that has changed over the decades. Back in the day, 30 weeks would have been the answer. Then, 28. What is it now?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                4 May 2022, 00:05

                                @jon-nyc said in Roe Overturned?:

                                All they’re doing is putting it back in the purview of the Democratic (sic) process (which she has always been hostile to, and designed the CFPB specifically to be isolated from it).

                                FIFY, LOL - damn you, autocorrect.

                                “Extremist” would have been finding a right to life in the “penumbra” of the constitution and outlawing abortion nationwide.

                                "Among these rights are the right to life, liberty..."

                                Not in the Constitution, but, you get my point. The right to life is "self-evident" according to Franklin Jefferson. The question is when does "life" begin?

                                In today's environment, perhaps the appropriate question is "When does 'self-sustaining' life begin."

                                It's the "where do you draw the line" question we, and others, have been debating forever. It's a ferociously difficult question to answer without being an "extremist" at either end. And the answer to that has changed over the decades. Back in the day, 30 weeks would have been the answer. Then, 28. What is it now?

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 4 May 2022, 00:50 last edited by
                                #98

                                @George-K said in Roe Overturned?:

                                @jon-nyc said in Roe Overturned?:

                                All they’re doing is putting it back in the purview of the Democratic (sic) process (which she has always been hostile to, and designed the CFPB specifically to be isolated from it).

                                FIFY, LOL - damn you, autocorrect.

                                “Extremist” would have been finding a right to life in the “penumbra” of the constitution and outlawing abortion nationwide.

                                "Among these rights are the right to life, liberty..."

                                Not in the Constitution, but, you get my point. The right to life is "self-evident" according to Franklin Jefferson. The question is when does "life" begin?

                                In today's environment, perhaps the appropriate question is "When does 'self-sustaining' life begin."

                                It's the "where do you draw the line" question we, and others, have been debating forever. It's a ferociously difficult question to answer without being an "extremist" at either end. And the answer to that has changed over the decades. Back in the day, 30 weeks would have been the answer. Then, 28. What is it now?

                                Pretty close to 22, I think ...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 4 May 2022, 00:56 last edited by
                                  #99

                                  Just saw Ingraham on Tucker. She was a SCOTUS clerk.

                                  She said on the first day of work, the Chief Justice spoke to all of the new clerks. What was emphasized, again and again, was that you do not talk about what goes on behind closed doors at the court. Rheinquist assured them, anybody breaking that rule, would never, ever, work in the American legal system.

                                  Whoever leaked this needs to spend a long time in Leavenworth.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    4 May 2022, 00:56

                                    Just saw Ingraham on Tucker. She was a SCOTUS clerk.

                                    She said on the first day of work, the Chief Justice spoke to all of the new clerks. What was emphasized, again and again, was that you do not talk about what goes on behind closed doors at the court. Rheinquist assured them, anybody breaking that rule, would never, ever, work in the American legal system.

                                    Whoever leaked this needs to spend a long time in Leavenworth.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 4 May 2022, 01:00 last edited by George K 5 Apr 2022, 01:01
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                                    @Jolly ...

                                    Interesting. There are some (Turley, if I remember correctly) that this was an illegal act, and deserves prosecution.

                                    On a more basic level, you have to wonder....

                                    "Oh, you're the guy person who leaked the SCOTUS decision!"

                                    Do you

                                    1. Refuse to hire him/her because he's untrustworthy
                                    2. Snap him/her up because he fits your ideology

                                    Edited to correct insensitive use of pronouns.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 4 May 2022, 01:03 last edited by
                                      #101

                                      Big Jim on cell block C don't care about your pronouns...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        4 May 2022, 01:03

                                        Big Jim on cell block C don't care about your pronouns...

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 4 May 2022, 01:04 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

                                        Big Jim on cell block C don't care about your pronouns...

                                        "You wanna be da husband o' you wanna be da wife?"

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 4 May 2022, 02:33 last edited by Jolly 5 Apr 2022, 02:34
                                          #103

                                          Interesting...

                                          https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/1521332604548517888

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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