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Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    For most people it is not. Biology is destiny. But for many, it is.

    If we look at human sexuality as a scale, with the preponderance being heterosexual, there will always be individuals drawn to the opposite sex, either inclusively or exclusively. They are a small minority, historically.

    Their numbers have increased in recent decades. Some say growing from around 3% of the population to almost 10% of the population. There are various theories for this...Lack of physical exercise or sunlight causing a lack of testosterone, BCP chemicals in municipal water supplies, etc. Personally, I think the feminization of the male in Western culture has a lot to do with this...You treat little boys like little girls and you constantly tell them men are bad, well, this can lead to some young men doubting their masculinity or being repulsed by it. OTOH, lesbianism has been encouraged in modern society, especially through popular media, much of it aimed at teenage females.

    The last brings up a point about choosing one's orientation...A good many young females, who are avowed lesbians or bisexuals, eventually wind up in monogamous heterosexual marriages and no longer pursue sex with other females. I think it less common, but I have known some males who were avowed homosexuals, who left the lifestyle and never returned, becoming heterosexual for the rest of their lives.

    Perhaps it is Victorian in outlook, but they thought that man had evolved to the point that the mind could control the impulses of the body, especially if those impulses were not overly strong. If that be the case, is part of the growth of the LGBTQRZ+ sector due to societal pressure of those minds that are susceptible to suggestion or herd mentality?

    For those who aren't sure of what they are, can they choose what to be?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      Not touching this with a 10-foot pole...

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Not touching this with a 10-foot pole...

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        George K
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        @LuFins-Dad said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

        Not touching this with a 10-foot pole...

        Not touching this with @Larry's dick.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @LuFins-Dad said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

          Not touching this with a 10-foot pole...

          Not touching this with @Larry's dick.

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #4

          @George-K said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

          Not touching this with a 10-foot pole...

          Not touching this with @Larry's dick.

          What part of foot did you confuse with centimeter?

          The Brad

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          • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
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            This shit would be sorted out a hell of a lot faster if:

            1. The Left stopped using minority sexual preferences as points in the Oppression Olympics, which you can turn in to be more popular, get jobs, and be above public reproach.
            2. The Right knock it off with the Gays are Sinful horseshit.

            I'm now going to walk the walk by going outside and not discussing this further.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              This shit would be sorted out a hell of a lot faster if:

              1. The Left stopped using minority sexual preferences as points in the Oppression Olympics, which you can turn in to be more popular, get jobs, and be above public reproach.
              2. The Right knock it off with the Gays are Sinful horseshit.

              I'm now going to walk the walk by going outside and not discussing this further.

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
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              #6

              @Aqua-Letifer

              Hey, it’s just a fellow TNCRer channelling his inner FTucker Carlson by JAQing off in the room.

              No big deal. Common occurrence.

              Elbows up!

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              • bachophileB Offline
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                bachophile
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                UV the nuts. That should fix up everything. Or so I’ve heard.

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  @Aqua-Letifer

                  Hey, it’s just a fellow TNCRer channelling his inner FTucker Carlson by JAQing off in the room.

                  No big deal. Common occurrence.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  @Renauda said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                  @Aqua-Letifer

                  Hey, it’s just a fellow TNCRer channelling his inner FTucker Carlson by JAQing off in the room.

                  No big deal. Common occurrence.

                  Party pooper.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #9

                    Kenny used to say gays are born and lesbians are made.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • KlausK Online
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                      Klaus
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                      #10

                      We have free will about the things we do, but not about the things we want. The question doesn't make sense.

                      That said, what we want is a function of many variables, and genes are just one of them. I'd say it's a choice or not in about the same way we can choose to like sushi, or Mozart.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #11

                        Take a child young enough, teach and coerce him enough, and you could make him sexually desire chickens.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
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                          I would imagine that’s not incompatible with what Klaus is saying given my own guess about his understanding of free will.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Take a child young enough, teach and coerce him enough, and you could make him sexually desire chickens.

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                            @Jolly said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                            Take a child young enough, teach and coerce him enough, and you could make him sexually desire chickens.

                            I doubt that. Some things are hard-wired. Look at all the things animals do by instinct even though nobody taught them anything.

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                              I have no doubt that there is a genetic component to sexual preference, but I also agree that you could teach humans to sexually desire anything. We are the blankest slate, in the words of Ivermectin enthusiast and biologist Bret Weinstein. He and his wife wrote a book about it. A comparison to other animals is apt, as they are way more functional by instinct than humans are. And that’s a feature, not a bug. If you happen to know anybody who seems to think culture is important, way more important than most people realize, then that person is probably an insightful genius, and also probably very physically attractive.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Take a child young enough, teach and coerce him enough, and you could make him sexually desire chickens.

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                                • KlausK Klaus

                                  @Jolly said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                                  Take a child young enough, teach and coerce him enough, and you could make him sexually desire chickens.

                                  I doubt that. Some things are hard-wired. Look at all the things animals do by instinct even though nobody taught them anything.

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  @Klaus said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                                  @Jolly said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                                  Take a child young enough, teach and coerce him enough, and you could make him sexually desire chickens.

                                  I doubt that. Some things are hard-wired. Look at all the things animals do by instinct even though nobody taught them anything.

                                  I’ve had dogs that would have humped a chicken.

                                  The Brad

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                                    @bachophile Nice breasts!

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @Klaus said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                                      @Jolly said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                                      Take a child young enough, teach and coerce him enough, and you could make him sexually desire chickens.

                                      I doubt that. Some things are hard-wired. Look at all the things animals do by instinct even though nobody taught them anything.

                                      I’ve had dogs that would have humped a chicken.

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                                      @Klaus said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                                      @Jolly said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                                      Take a child young enough, teach and coerce him enough, and you could make him sexually desire chickens.

                                      I doubt that. Some things are hard-wired. Look at all the things animals do by instinct even though nobody taught them anything.

                                      I’ve had dogs that would have humped a chicken.

                                      My dog humps formless geometric shapes, like couch pillows.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Of the people who gay/lesbian, I think there's a percentage of them that have a legit sexual disorder (I know, a shocking term) by being attracted to the same sex. I would say it's a disability, similar to those who are born with hearing or seeing issues, but in this case the hardware still works fine so it seems the attraction to the opposite sex (plug, meet outlet) that seems to be in disorder. Anyway... for the other percentage, I'd imagine the "why" answer runs the spectrum from being a conscious self-defining choice to being an unconscious one based on life experiences, culture, trauma, media, whatever.

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                                          @bachophile said in Is Sexual Orientation A Choice?:

                                          @Jolly DF980694-6B33-4896-B0F6-1A63AB7C8E18.jpeg

                                          Dude, that's a duck.

                                          Bigger hole.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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