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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #7

    Ok Jolly, will you go on record now saying you won't support Trump if he declares a loss illegitimate and resits a peaceful transfer of power?

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #8

      What do you think, Jon?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        jon-nyc
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        #9

        I fear you'll be right by his side, even if he shoots the constitution on 5th Avenue.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #10

          Same stuff was said about Obama.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Same stuff was said about Obama.

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            Jolly
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            #11

            @Mik said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:

            Same stuff was said about Obama.

            ODS?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • L Offline
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              Loki
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              #12

              Oh sure. And to think people believe this nonsense.

              It’s amazing what people and willing to believe, the very same people who lecture on bias.

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
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                #13

                There are folks who are willing to believe anything and everything bad that might be said about both Obama and Trump., despite any evidence at all or even to the contrary.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  #14

                  @jon-nyc said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:

                  loss illegitimate

                  The democrats are just asking for it.

                  They come down on the illegitimate side of every "voting rights" issue. They consistently favor enabling fraud. There is no need for Mr. Trump to prepare his base, that is done for him.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    QED.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      It’s a topic that concerns me. He is preparing his base to see any loss as illegitimate. He didn’t even accept his loss in the popular vote, almost laughably declaring n+1 fraudulent votes after losing by n.

                      So I think it’s a legitimate concern.

                      Talk me out of it.

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
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                      #16

                      @jon-nyc said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:

                      It’s a topic that concerns me. He is preparing his base to see any loss as illegitimate. He didn’t even accept his loss in the popular vote, almost laughably declaring n+1 fraudulent votes after losing by n.

                      So I think it’s a legitimate concern.

                      Talk me out of it.

                      What form do you suppose an argument might take that could plausibly talk you out of this?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        It’s a topic that concerns me. He is preparing his base to see any loss as illegitimate. He didn’t even accept his loss in the popular vote, almost laughably declaring n+1 fraudulent votes after losing by n.

                        So I think it’s a legitimate concern.

                        Talk me out of it.

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                        #17

                        @jon-nyc said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:

                        So I think it’s a legitimate concern

                        +1.

                        It's sad that this isn't a completely absurd idea anymore.

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
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                          #18

                          If after the election we had rioting at 1% of the scale of our recent riots, (and equally ineffectual at getting anything accomplished - Trump would still leave office) you'd all declare vindication of your concerns. Meanwhile, no politics is to blame for our recent riots, only a racist cop in MN.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Larry
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                            Liberalism was a mental disease. Liberalism is dead. It has been replaced by some sort of fascist idiocy that could only happen after the brain rot of modern liberalism had metastasized.

                            What I find hilarious about this particular bit of insanity is the utter delusion of the morons "over there".. actually believing they have a snowball's chance in hell of beating Trump. Hell, they're not even a national party any more.

                            I have watched that bunch of fools shift in their values so much over the years... no principles, just party loyalty, like the sheep they are. I can remember a time when if you even used the word Socialism in jest they'd get mad as hell, and swear on their mommy's grave they were not and never would embrace Socialism. Today they all embrace Socialism.

                            A bigger bunch of idiots I've never seen.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              If after the election we had rioting at 1% of the scale of our recent riots, (and equally ineffectual at getting anything accomplished - Trump would still leave office) you'd all declare vindication of your concerns. Meanwhile, no politics is to blame for our recent riots, only a racist cop in MN.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #20

                              @Horace said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:

                              If after the election we had rioting at 1% of the scale of our recent riots, (and equally ineffectual at getting anything accomplished - Trump would still leave office) you'd all declare vindication of your concerns. Meanwhile, no politics is to blame for our recent riots, only a racist cop in MN.

                              Who are you even talking to? First sentence sounded like me, but I can't believe you'd attribute the latter point of view to me.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                jon-nyc
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                                #21

                                Ok, Larry. Tell me that under no circumstances will you back Trump if he declares an apparent loss illegitimate.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @Horace said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:

                                  If after the election we had rioting at 1% of the scale of our recent riots, (and equally ineffectual at getting anything accomplished - Trump would still leave office) you'd all declare vindication of your concerns. Meanwhile, no politics is to blame for our recent riots, only a racist cop in MN.

                                  Who are you even talking to? First sentence sounded like me, but I can't believe you'd attribute the latter point of view to me.

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                                  Horace
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                                  #22

                                  @jon-nyc said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:

                                  @Horace said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:

                                  If after the election we had rioting at 1% of the scale of our recent riots, (and equally ineffectual at getting anything accomplished - Trump would still leave office) you'd all declare vindication of your concerns. Meanwhile, no politics is to blame for our recent riots, only a racist cop in MN.

                                  Who are you even talking to? First sentence sounded like me, but I can't believe you'd attribute the latter point of view to me.

                                  While I haven't seen you blame any leftward politics for the rioting, I do not suspect you see the situation as basically justified, as many others with concerns about Trump leaving office do.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #23

                                    Hence my question.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • LarryL Offline
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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #24

                                      America had better hope the democrats never get back in power ever again. The Democrat party is a terrorist organization at this point, and WTF is a good example of the kind of spineless, ignorant dumbasses that populate it.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #25

                                        Loki, still think the concern is unjustified?

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Ok, Larry. Tell me that under no circumstances will you back Trump if he declares an apparent loss illegitimate.

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                                          Larry
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #26

                                          @jon-nyc said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:

                                          Ok, Larry. Tell me that under no circumstances will you back Trump if he declares an apparent loss illegitimate.

                                          I won't even dignify that question by answering it. You're asking me to join you in your delusion.

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