State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office
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It’s a topic that concerns me. He is preparing his base to see any loss as illegitimate. He didn’t even accept his loss in the popular vote, almost laughably declaring n+1 fraudulent votes after losing by n.
So I think it’s a legitimate concern.
Talk me out of it.
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Nah. Enjoy the dekusion.
And be afraid. Be very, very afraid.
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Ok Jolly, will you go on record now saying you won't support Trump if he declares a loss illegitimate and resits a peaceful transfer of power?
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What do you think, Jon?
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I fear you'll be right by his side, even if he shoots the constitution on 5th Avenue.
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"My pronouns are FA/FO." - Mik, 2024
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@Mik said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:
Same stuff was said about Obama.
ODS?
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@jon-nyc said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:
loss illegitimate
The democrats are just asking for it.
They come down on the illegitimate side of every "voting rights" issue. They consistently favor enabling fraud. There is no need for Mr. Trump to prepare his base, that is done for him.
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QED.
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@jon-nyc said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:
It’s a topic that concerns me. He is preparing his base to see any loss as illegitimate. He didn’t even accept his loss in the popular vote, almost laughably declaring n+1 fraudulent votes after losing by n.
So I think it’s a legitimate concern.
Talk me out of it.
What form do you suppose an argument might take that could plausibly talk you out of this?
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If after the election we had rioting at 1% of the scale of our recent riots, (and equally ineffectual at getting anything accomplished - Trump would still leave office) you'd all declare vindication of your concerns. Meanwhile, no politics is to blame for our recent riots, only a racist cop in MN.
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Liberalism was a mental disease. Liberalism is dead. It has been replaced by some sort of fascist idiocy that could only happen after the brain rot of modern liberalism had metastasized.
What I find hilarious about this particular bit of insanity is the utter delusion of the morons "over there".. actually believing they have a snowball's chance in hell of beating Trump. Hell, they're not even a national party any more.
I have watched that bunch of fools shift in their values so much over the years... no principles, just party loyalty, like the sheep they are. I can remember a time when if you even used the word Socialism in jest they'd get mad as hell, and swear on their mommy's grave they were not and never would embrace Socialism. Today they all embrace Socialism.
A bigger bunch of idiots I've never seen.
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@Horace said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:
If after the election we had rioting at 1% of the scale of our recent riots, (and equally ineffectual at getting anything accomplished - Trump would still leave office) you'd all declare vindication of your concerns. Meanwhile, no politics is to blame for our recent riots, only a racist cop in MN.
Who are you even talking to? First sentence sounded like me, but I can't believe you'd attribute the latter point of view to me.
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Ok, Larry. Tell me that under no circumstances will you back Trump if he declares an apparent loss illegitimate.
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@jon-nyc said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:
@Horace said in State of the art progressive thought re: Trump refusing to leave office:
If after the election we had rioting at 1% of the scale of our recent riots, (and equally ineffectual at getting anything accomplished - Trump would still leave office) you'd all declare vindication of your concerns. Meanwhile, no politics is to blame for our recent riots, only a racist cop in MN.
Who are you even talking to? First sentence sounded like me, but I can't believe you'd attribute the latter point of view to me.
While I haven't seen you blame any leftward politics for the rioting, I do not suspect you see the situation as basically justified, as many others with concerns about Trump leaving office do.
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Hence my question.
