Taking On The Mouse
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I was at Disneyworld the first year it opened. Lot of orange groves and rural land out in that part of the world before the Mouse moved in. The state of Florida cut those deals with Disney for economic development, and it worked. Disney became Florida's largest employer. And since that area has become a destination, other jobs have followed.
But nobody else operates under the favorable governing deal that Disney
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@George-K said in Taking On The Mouse:
Why did Disney get them in the first place?
Maybe it was a reward for conspiring with the FBI to blacklist a bunch of his own employees.
Those were the good old days when big corporations behaved in a morally upstanding manner we can all get behind, and the FBI were genuinely people we could trust!
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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I think the Reedy Creek deal has been public knowledge since the beginning.
I think Disney probably more than earned any tax breaks they got.
I have been visiting Disney World regularly for over 40 years. I don't think anyone would disagree that Disney has greatly raised the value of everything within 50 miles of Orlando. The airlines, hotels, schools and every other business in Central Florida has grown because of Disney.
But now Orlando is so big that Disney is no longer the only engine of growth. It's probably time to reassess.
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Yes it’s taking away a privilege but it’s being done as a punishment obviously. As a parent you are surely familiar with taking away a privilege as punishment.
None of the principled reasons to remove the privilege occurred to these guys before the Ed bill. In fact these very same clowns just wrote a new and rather substantial Disney privilege into law a just a few months ago. (Tech reg bill applies to all social media companies ‘unless owned by a company that operates a large amusement park in the state’).
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Taking On The Mouse:
@George-K said in Taking On The Mouse:
Why did Disney get them in the first place?
Maybe it was a reward for conspiring with the FBI to blacklist a bunch of his own employees.
Those were the good old days when big corporations behaved in a morally upstanding manner we can all get behind, and the FBI were genuinely people we could trust!
At that point in history, the Red Menace was not as menacing as portrayed, but it was real. They called it the Cold War for a reason...
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@jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:
Yes it’s taking away a privilege but it’s being done as a punishment obviously. As a parent you are surely familiar with taking away a privilege as punishment.
None of the principled reasons to remove the privilege occurred to these guys before the Ed bill. In fact these very same clowns just wrote a new and rather substantial Disney privilege into law a just a few months ago. (Tech reg bill applies to all social media companies ‘unless owned by a company that operates a large amusement park in the state’).
Do you not understand politics or are you being intentionally obtuse because corporate America got gored for coloring outside of the lines?
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@Jolly said in Taking On The Mouse:
@jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:
Yes it’s taking away a privilege but it’s being done as a punishment obviously. As a parent you are surely familiar with taking away a privilege as punishment.
None of the principled reasons to remove the privilege occurred to these guys before the Ed bill. In fact these very same clowns just wrote a new and rather substantial Disney privilege into law a just a few months ago. (Tech reg bill applies to all social media companies ‘unless owned by a company that operates a large amusement park in the state’).
Do you not understand politics or are you being intentionally obtuse because corporate America got gored for coloring outside of the lines?
Odd question, are you really asking me if I understand that politicians misuse and abuse their power? Of course I do.
But I don’t fucking cheer it on.
DON’T let them eat cake.
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@jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:
@Jolly said in Taking On The Mouse:
@jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:
Yes it’s taking away a privilege but it’s being done as a punishment obviously. As a parent you are surely familiar with taking away a privilege as punishment.
None of the principled reasons to remove the privilege occurred to these guys before the Ed bill. In fact these very same clowns just wrote a new and rather substantial Disney privilege into law a just a few months ago. (Tech reg bill applies to all social media companies ‘unless owned by a company that operates a large amusement park in the state’).
Do you not understand politics or are you being intentionally obtuse because corporate America got gored for coloring outside of the lines?
Odd question, are you really asking me if I understand that politicians misuse and abuse their power? Of course I do.
But I don’t fucking cheer it on.
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Because Disney initiated this, by doing something totally unrelated to their business, and attempted to social engineer the state of Florida, I don't think it is an abuse of power. I think it's what politicians of all stripes do when something or someone gives them the middle finger.
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I don't cheer it on, as much as I recognize what happens when you bare-foot kick a porcupine.
Pols are pols. They may have different political views, but in some instances, they ALL act alike.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
Warning: I post things that interest me. Read and comment at your own discretion. -
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I don’t necessarily see this as an abuse. If they were to decide to begin a 3 year road improvement project at the highways directly at Disney’s exits, slowing traffic to 1 lane… That would be an abuse. Cutting Disney’s liquor licenses would be an abuse… This is a matter of saying “You’re welcome to your opinions, but we are not going to actively reward you while you work to undermine the will of the people of Florida. That’s entirely different.
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@Jolly said in Taking On The Mouse:
- Because Disney initiated this, by doing something totally unrelated to their business, …
If the bill makes a big enough subset of Disney’s employees and customers upset, makes it tougher for Disney to recruit new employees or gain new customers, then it is related to Disney’s business.
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@Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:
@Jolly said in Taking On The Mouse:
- Because Disney initiated this, by doing something totally unrelated to their business, …
If the bill makes a big enough subset of Disney’s employees and customers upset, makes it tougher for Disney to recruit new employees or gain new customers, then it is related to Disney’s business.
Disney has been representative of buttoned down mainstream pop culture all along. The only difference now is that Disney is being led, rather than leading.
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@Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:
Also, why should you cheer that the state is prohibiting schools from teaching X, Y, or Z? You do not believe in “local control” anymore, that you now welcome the state to take away the local school’s freedom to locally decide what to teach?
Look, where you stick your dick is no business of mine. Do with it what you wish. But there is something inherently evil about grooming and preying on children, before they decide what their sexual orientation will be.
Since the state should enact laws to protect the most vulnerable among us, and in this case the state is actively financing public schools, they do have a say in the rules and curriculum of public schools in the state of Florida.
Alternatively, if you feel that sexual function, orientation recruitment and transgender experimentation should be a part of a school curriculum for K-3 students, I invite you to establish an alternative to the Florida public school system and invite all comers who wish to participate in your alternative educational establishment.
Live long and prosper.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
Warning: I post things that interest me. Read and comment at your own discretion. -
@Jolly said in Taking On The Mouse:
But there is something inherently evil about grooming and preying on children, …
No school is doing that on the matter of sexual orientation. You’re just erecting straw man and making shit up. Now on the matter of religion, there are plenty of schools (e.g., “Sunday schools”) really pushing specific religions and even specific denominations hard on to very young children, if you want to worry about young children being groomed before they can make their own choices.
You continue to be wrong about sexual orientation being a choice. Which church or temple or mosque or synagogue or house of worship to go to, which congregation or sect or coven to join, what scripture to read, what prayers to recite … those are indeed choices. Who to love? Not so much. I will even give you a simple way to falsify this: you show me you romantically loving another man — this will show that you can really “choose” your orientation. Go ahead and surprise me.
