Pick A Better Martyr

[jon-nyc]

So I assume the cop beats the murder charge?

Though he’ll do actual time for the other charges.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in Pick A Better Martyr:

So I assume the cop beats the murder charge?

Though he’ll do actual time for the other charges.

What other charges, the tax fraud, manslaughter?

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Pick A Better Martyr:

So I assume the cop beats the murder charge?

Though he’ll do actual time for the other charges.

He may do time for some physical abuse, but that's about it.

[Copper]

He'll do time because cnn and the nba said so.

[George K]

@jolly said in Pick A Better Martyr:

The blood levels of Fentanyl are over the average lethal dose

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/us/george-floyd-fentanyl-toxicologist.html

Maybe not.

Here's what I never understood about the "lethal level" argument: A lethal level of fentanyl is, well, "lethal." How is it that he was (ahem) alive with that level of fentanyl in his blood.

Also, fentanyl, and all narcotics, cause death by suppression of the respiratory center's response to CO2. They cause unconsciousness, not aggressiveness. They stop breathing - simple as that.

That's not the case here.

[Copper]

An forensic toxicologist vs a lawyer on the subject of drug overdose.

I wonder if that lawyer can find an expert on his side.

For some reason the story doesn't mention that.

[George K]

I've been pretty agnostic on the Floyd case so far. I have little doubt that the cop will be convicted, because the jury won't want Minneapolis (and other cities) to burn.

I just find it interesting how, under the rules of the court, so much of what we read in the press, is shown to be not the case.

[LuFins Dad]

Ultimately, there is one inescapable and indisputable fact...Floyd was unconscious and unmoving for several minutes before Chauvin got up, and it was still more time before medical assistance was called. Even if it was an overdose, Chauvin and his delay in calling an ambulance played a significant and criminal part of Floyd’s death.

I think Manslaughter at a minimum and probably Murder 3...

[George K]

@lufins-dad said in Pick A Better Martyr:

Chauvin and his delay in calling an ambulance played a significant and criminal part of Floyd’s death.
I think Manslaughter at a minimum and probably Murder 3...

Agreed.

The expert today testified that, even if the "knee on the neck" narrative was wrong (and it is), the fact that Chauvin sat on Floyd's back impaired his ability to breathe.

Imagine a 180 lb man putting most of his weight on the back of your chest. How well do you think you'd breathe?

[Copper]

@george-k said in Pick A Better Martyr:

I just find it interesting how, under the rules of the court, so much of what we read in the press, is shown to be not the case.

They got the skin color correct, the rest is just filler.