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How about that market?

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  • MikM Mik

    I did not move any to bonds, but we had a big pension buyout that we put into fixed income. My guys are running around 4.5-5% on fixed.

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    @Mik said in How about that market?:

    I did not move any to bonds, but we had a big pension buyout that we put into fixed income. My guys are running around 4.5-5% on fixed.

    That's excellent.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      They have been remarkably adept at limiting downside. They were in 2008-9 as well.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        @xenon

        Good comments. Something I read in the IHT about basically the same thing. I hate to use the word "class", but there are two economic classes out there - those who have stocks and those who dont.

        Those who have stocks have had a much much better time during these past few months than the non-stock class.

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          @taiwan_girl I think the stock market in general is forward-looking (regardless of the on-the-ground pain), which creates the "two classes" optic. In other words, those investing see a light at the end of the tunnel (maybe 6-24 months from now) and are acting today. A massive resurgence of the virus, or a Biden election, could certainly cause a big correction. In other words, this Fall could be interesting.

          @Mik Anyway, for me I'm up about 6% YTD, not bad. I've made some good moves, and also missed on a few shots. I still have about 15% cash on the sidelines I thought I would've deployed by now, expecting a 2nd correction that never came, so I'll probably just start dollar cost averaging it back in over the next 6 months.

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          • 89th8 89th

            @taiwan_girl I think the stock market in general is forward-looking (regardless of the on-the-ground pain), which creates the "two classes" optic. In other words, those investing see a light at the end of the tunnel (maybe 6-24 months from now) and are acting today. A massive resurgence of the virus, or a Biden election, could certainly cause a big correction. In other words, this Fall could be interesting.

            @Mik Anyway, for me I'm up about 6% YTD, not bad. I've made some good moves, and also missed on a few shots. I still have about 15% cash on the sidelines I thought I would've deployed by now, expecting a 2nd correction that never came, so I'll probably just start dollar cost averaging it back in over the next 6 months.

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            @89th Horace and I had a good discussion on this on the old forum board. My thought is that the President does not have as big a effect on the stock market as Presidents like to believe (especially when it goes up LOL).

            I was reading a recent article about what the effect on the stock market would be if Mr. Biden was elected. Not a very good article as the guy said -"maybe it will go down or maybe it will go up, or maybe no effect!!"

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              If Mr. Biden is elected the market will crash, then it will recover after a few minutes.

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                If Mr. Biden is elected the market will crash, then it will recover after a few minutes.

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                @Copper said in How about that market?:

                If Mr. Biden is elected the market will crash, then it will recover after a few minutes.

                I think you are exactly right. 🙂 It is like when there is some world event (missal attack in Middle East for example.). Stock market goes way down and than back to where it was.

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                  I don't own any stocks. I guess I'm just a poor boy...... hahahahahaaaaa

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                    So what does the soaring market mean to everything? Must scare the crap out of the Trump detractors?

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @89th Horace and I had a good discussion on this on the old forum board. My thought is that the President does not have as big a effect on the stock market as Presidents like to believe (especially when it goes up LOL).

                      I was reading a recent article about what the effect on the stock market would be if Mr. Biden was elected. Not a very good article as the guy said -"maybe it will go down or maybe it will go up, or maybe no effect!!"

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                      @taiwan_girl said in How about that market?:

                      @89th Horace and I had a good discussion on this on the old forum board. My thought is that the President does not have as big a effect on the stock market as Presidents like to believe (especially when it goes up LOL).

                      I was reading a recent article about what the effect on the stock market would be if Mr. Biden was elected. Not a very good article as the guy said -"maybe it will go down or maybe it will go up, or maybe no effect!!"

                      I agree the President, in general, doesn't have too much of an effect on the stock market. But regarding a Biden election, if the 2016 reaction was any guide (Trump wins, stock market soars), then I'd think if Biden wins, the market will have a big dip and likely stay down for a bit until it's clear what policies he might advocate for.

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                      • MikM Mik

                        How are your investments looking? I’m only down 3.6% from my high.

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                        @Mik said in How about that market?:

                        How are your investments looking? I’m only down 3.6% from my high.

                        At this moment the market is up3.8% today. It’s an interesting statement on perceived risks of Covid and protests.

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                          Let's see....

                          If Biden wins, the stock market tanks while they figure out what his policies will be...

                          But presidents don't have much affect on the stock market......

                          Got it...

                          BWAHAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!

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                            I think a Biden presidency would be one of simply trying to be presidential and not to embarrass himself. They chose him for just that reason - to tamp down the progressive wing. There would be a signature achievement but it wouldn't actually amount to much, just something easy to pass and claim victory, most likely relating to Obamacare reforms.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              I agree with Mik that Biden would be a non-issue for the market.

                              I do not agree with anybody who believes that presidents by definition have no meaningful effect on the stock market.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                I for one have stopped evaluating politicians in terms of how much I like their policies. I evaluate them in terms of who does the least amount of damage relative to the "null" option of doing nothing. A politician who doesn't do much and has no big goals is usually a good politician.

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                                  I for one have stopped evaluating politicians in terms of how much I like their policies. I evaluate them in terms of who does the least amount of damage relative to the "null" option of doing nothing. A politician who doesn't do much and has no big goals is usually a good politician.

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                                  @Klaus said in How about that market?:

                                  I for one have stopped evaluating politicians in terms of how much I like their policies. I evaluate them in terms of who does the least amount of damage relative to the "null" option of doing nothing. A politician who doesn't do much and has no big goals is usually a good politician.

                                  That would be a decent ball park definition of the difference between the left and the right. And your preference would be for the right.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                      Haha predictable.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        Haha predictable.

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                                        @89th said in How about that market?:

                                        Haha predictable.

                                        Yeah, of course it was.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          The exception would prove the rule, if there would ever happen to be one.

                                          I won’t hold my breath.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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