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Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.

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  • R Renauda
    16 May 2022, 23:08

    @Jolly said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

    @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

    Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.

    Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.

    All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.

    Wonder what the Turks got in return?

    Apparently not enough baksheesh:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/16/russia-finland-sweden-nato-ukraine-war

    Bastards.

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    George K
    wrote on 16 May 2022, 23:15 last edited by
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    @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

    Bastards.

    Interesting , and sad.

    Not surprising, though. Turkey's always been a wild-card in all this BS.

    I have to agree and wonder what pressure was applied by Putin vs the rest of NATO in getting to this point.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 17 May 2022, 00:06 last edited by
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      Not really surprising if you look at Turkey’s always precarious geographic position.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • G George K
        16 May 2022, 23:15

        @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

        Bastards.

        Interesting , and sad.

        Not surprising, though. Turkey's always been a wild-card in all this BS.

        I have to agree and wonder what pressure was applied by Putin vs the rest of NATO in getting to this point.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 17 May 2022, 00:59 last edited by
        #37

        @George-K

        Erdogan may yet change his mind, again. Curious though that he waited this long to express his concerns. More baksheesh might calm his mind.

        Elbows up!

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        • R Renauda
          17 May 2022, 00:59

          @George-K

          Erdogan may yet change his mind, again. Curious though that he waited this long to express his concerns. More baksheesh might calm his mind.

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          George K
          wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:03 last edited by
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          @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

          Erdogan may yet change his mind, again.

          He's been quite the wild card, hasn't he? Even before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:22 last edited by
            #39

            So hint that we might kick Turkey out of NATO.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:28 last edited by
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              “Can Turkey be Expelled from NATO?”

              https://www.justsecurity.org/66574/can-turkey-be-expelled-from-nato/

              That’s from 2019. As it is, NATO currently does not have a procedure to expel a member state.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:31 last edited by jon-nyc
                #41

                Easy. All the other countries leave NATO and join SCHNATO, but don’t let Turkey join. SCHNATO has all the same characteristics of NATO except the Turks and maybe the Hungarians aren’t allowed to join. Finit.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:34 last edited by
                  #42

                  Might also allow Russia to declare victory saying they destroyed NATO!

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    17 May 2022, 01:34

                    Might also allow Russia to declare victory saying they destroyed NATO!

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 17 May 2022, 02:19 last edited by Renauda
                    #43

                    @jon-nyc

                    Well now, that solves everything.

                    Elbows up!

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                      George K
                      wrote on 18 May 2022, 18:30 last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 18 May 2022, 18:35 last edited by
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                        I love the idiots who are saying to kick Turkey out. I'm not sure there's a more geographically strategic country in the whole group.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        • G George K
                          18 May 2022, 18:30

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 18 May 2022, 23:35 last edited by
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                          @George-K

                          Putin smiled.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • R Renauda
                            18 May 2022, 23:35

                            @George-K

                            Putin smiled.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 18 May 2022, 23:41 last edited by
                            #47

                            @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                            @George-K

                            Putin smiled.

                            Ayup...

                            alt text

                            I'm sure that Erdogan understands his strategic significance, and he'll leverage that to the best of his ability.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              18 May 2022, 23:41

                              @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                              @George-K

                              Putin smiled.

                              Ayup...

                              alt text

                              I'm sure that Erdogan understands his strategic significance, and he'll leverage that to the best of his ability.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 19 May 2022, 00:07 last edited by
                              #48

                              @George-K

                              I think Putin has at least twenty-seven 8 x 10 coloured glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one one explaining what Erdogan is doing on that frame.

                              Elbows up!

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 19 May 2022, 00:32 last edited by jon-nyc
                                #49

                                Prediction: Sweden and Finland will end their sanctions on Turkey, Turkey will end its objections, and SE and FI join NATO.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  19 May 2022, 00:32

                                  Prediction: Sweden and Finland will end their sanctions on Turkey, Turkey will end its objections, and SE and FI join NATO.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 19 May 2022, 00:34 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                                  Prediction: Sweden and Finland will end their sanctions on Turkey and join NATO.

                                  Please elaborate. I was not aware that these countries had sanctions against Turkey.

                                  Or, send me a google link if you're feeling lazy, of course.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 19 May 2022, 00:35 last edited by
                                    #51

                                    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61472021.amp

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 19 May 2022, 00:36 last edited by
                                      #52

                                      Best comment yet:

                                      In this regard, the Turkish authoritarian and kleptocrat seems to resemble no one more than former Illinois governor and convicted felon Rod Blagojevich who, when he found out he could appoint Barack Obama's successor to the U.S. Senate, famously said, “I've got this thing and it's f---ing golden. I'm not just giving it up for f---ing nothing.”

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        19 May 2022, 00:36

                                        Best comment yet:

                                        In this regard, the Turkish authoritarian and kleptocrat seems to resemble no one more than former Illinois governor and convicted felon Rod Blagojevich who, when he found out he could appoint Barack Obama's successor to the U.S. Senate, famously said, “I've got this thing and it's f---ing golden. I'm not just giving it up for f---ing nothing.”

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 19 May 2022, 00:40 last edited by
                                        #53

                                        @jon-nyc said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                                        Best comment yet:

                                        In this regard, the Turkish authoritarian and kleptocrat seems to resemble no one more than former Illinois governor and convicted felon Rod Blagojevich who, when he found out he could appoint Barack Obama's successor to the U.S. Senate, famously said, “I've got this thing and it's f---ing golden. I'm not just giving it up for f---ing nothing.”

                                        LOL.

                                        Illinois, where our governors not only issue license plates, they actually fucking make them.

                                        I worked with a nurse who went to school with Blago: "He was a punk then, and he's a punk now."

                                        Sorry for the diversion...continue.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          19 May 2022, 00:07

                                          @George-K

                                          I think Putin has at least twenty-seven 8 x 10 coloured glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one one explaining what Erdogan is doing on that frame.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 19 May 2022, 00:41 last edited by
                                          #54

                                          @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                                          @George-K

                                          I think Putin has at least twenty-seven 8 x 10 coloured glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one one explaining what Erdogan is doing on that frame.

                                          Cultural reference of the day.

                                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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