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Looking for the "Why?"

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    Jolly
    wrote on 9 Apr 2022, 15:24 last edited by
    #1

    https://www.historynet.com/why-the-south-lost-the-civil-war-cover-page-february-99-american-history-feature/?f

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 01:57 last edited by
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      Interesting. #1 and #2 are what I have hear the most as the reasions.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 09:31 last edited by
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        Feudalism vs capitalism. No contest.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          Jolly
          wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 12:40 last edited by
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          Until Gettysburg, the contest was in doubt.

          As was pointed out in the piece, what would have happened if Lincoln had lost in '64?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Copper
            wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 15:00 last edited by
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            I think the south was simply out-manned and out-gunned.

            I have read that there were several times where if things had worked out just a little differently the outcome could have been changed. But, of course, that is speculation. You hear the same said about WWII.

            But an overwhelming number of assets is always helpful.

            Mr. Lincoln certainly thought, more than once, that the Feds could lose.

            In the end the North had more Irish than the South, that was the difference.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 16:34 last edited by
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              The war was highly unpopular in several areas. New York even had riots when draft was instituted. Part of the South's strategy was hoping the North would decide the fight simply wasn't worth it.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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