Zuck Sucks

[LuFins Dad]

I’ve wanted to get a set but I just don’t have the time to use them. When Finley gets a little older, perhaps.

[Aqua Letifer]

@89th said in Zuck Sucks:

LOL Aqua, I have no idea.

All I know, and maybe I'm way wrong, is this whole "meta" world idea is an absolute fail. First, it looks like a really poor 90s version of sim games. Second, it feels like an idea that silicon valley board rooms think "could be as big as the universe!" but really... who the eff would want to put on VR goggles and hang out with strangers in a fake world? Yes, I get the irony of posting that here in TNCR, minus the VR goggles of course.

Couple of things:

1. Algo changes on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and LinkedIn. Feeds are no longer chronological, but filtered by engagement. You only see updates from people you follow if the initial post passes the algo's initial benchmark test for engagement. Otherwise it's lost. This is old news but it's important to consider along with the following:
2. Notifications don't mean anything. Subscribing and signing up for YouTube notifications doesn't mean you'll actually get notified. And across the board, YouTube engagement is way down. Many content creators are starting to look elsewhere because the growth isn't nearly what it used to be.
3. "Dark social" is becoming a thing. But why is it becoming a thing? Why in the world is that growing in use, and engagement on other traditional platforms is waning?

Basically, I think social media as we know it is changing again. People are starting to figure out that social media will never be making good on its initial promises. I mean really, who the fuck wants to follow influencers? Of those you follow on whatever platform you're on, how many are influencers, how many are people you know, and how many are people who have as small a following as you?

People are walking away from this shit, and learning on their own that 1:1 interactions are where it's at. It's why Discord servers are blowing up for all kinds of subject matter right now, even though it was only intended to be for gaming. It's happening on Twitch, too.

Ken Burns isn't behind the times, he's ahead. Which is insane, because, Ken Burns.

[Jolly]

YouTube is killing itself with its own algorithms. The wonderful, wild wackiness of YouTube was being able to wade through the dross and find those bits that were truly unique and interesting.

Now, it's no more than a morass like Twitter, with the same people doing the same things, with the same people agreeing or disagreeing, while the vast majority of humanity doesn't give a damn if the whole thing disappeared in a whimpering electronic burst.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Jolly said in Zuck Sucks:

YouTube is killing itself with its own algorithms. The wonderful, wild wackiness of YouTube was being able to wade through the dross and find those bits that were truly unique and interesting.

Now, it's no more than a morass like Twitter, with the same people doing the same things, with the same people agreeing or disagreeing, while the vast majority of humanity doesn't give a damn if the whole thing disappeared in a whimpering electronic burst.

What's completely screwed them, though, is that they forgot who made the platform worth checking out in the first place. Many, many video makers are either jumping ship outright, making moves to, or treating YT as storage management only. You might be pissed as a user, but so are the uploaders. It's failing.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Zuck Sucks:

It's failing.

I think that might be over-stating it a tad. It's still the most visited site on the net.

[Horace]

You have to be totally milquetoast to avoid the YouTube filters. Apparently you can’t even say “bully” out loud. Who knows how many other words are against the filter rules.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Zuck Sucks:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Zuck Sucks:

It's failing.

I think that might be over-stating it a tad. It's still the most visited site on the net.

It's not overstating anything. I'm talking about trajectory, not status. So, you're right for now. But they need to make moves or face some serious decline.

[Doctor Phibes]

I probably watch YouTube more than any single TV channel.

Yeah yeah, I know, OK boomer. My son probably watches it more than any other channel, too, and he's connected to all kinds of shit I know nothing about.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Zuck Sucks:

I probably watch YouTube more than any single TV channel.

Yeah yeah, I know, OK boomer. My son probably watches it more than any other channel, too, and he's connected to all kinds of shit I know nothing about.

I'm on it a lot, I've had to make shit for it, and know a handful of folks who made it a full-time gig. Those folks, by the way, were more than fine before, but all of them are making alternative plans now. Not one feels confident about the future on that platform.

[Copper]

[Doctor Phibes]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Zuck Sucks:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Zuck Sucks:

I probably watch YouTube more than any single TV channel.

Yeah yeah, I know, OK boomer. My son probably watches it more than any other channel, too, and he's connected to all kinds of shit I know nothing about.

I'm on it a lot, I've had to make shit for it, and know a handful of folks who made it a full-time gig. Those folks, by the way, were more than fine before, but all of them are making alternative plans now. Not one feels confident about the future on that platform.

To be honest, I don't really care. If it goes the way of Netscape and Yahoo, so be it. There'll always be another site.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Zuck Sucks:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Zuck Sucks:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Zuck Sucks:

I probably watch YouTube more than any single TV channel.

Yeah yeah, I know, OK boomer. My son probably watches it more than any other channel, too, and he's connected to all kinds of shit I know nothing about.

I'm on it a lot, I've had to make shit for it, and know a handful of folks who made it a full-time gig. Those folks, by the way, were more than fine before, but all of them are making alternative plans now. Not one feels confident about the future on that platform.

To be honest, I don't really care. If it goes the way of Netscape and Yahoo, so be it. There'll always be another site.

I'm looking forward to it, actually.

[Axtremus]

I signed up for YouTube Premium, to get rid of advertisements. YouTube is my most-watched video channel/platform. I may be the only one here who has a YouTube Premium subscription.

[George K]

@Axtremus I've been tempted.

All ads on all platforms are stopped (regardless of device)?

What's the cost - too lazy to look it up.

[Horace]

@Axtremus said in Zuck Sucks:

I signed up for YouTube Premium, to get rid of advertisements. YouTube is my most-watched video channel/platform. I may be the only one here who has a YouTube Premium subscription.

I have one. My favorite feature is that the video's sound keeps playing when my phone is on the lock screen.

[Axtremus]

@George-K said in Zuck Sucks:

@Axtremus I've been tempted.

All ads on all platforms are stopped (regardless of device)?

What's the cost - too lazy to look it up.

Yes, no ads on all platforms, provided you're signed in with the right Google account for which you have subscribed to Premium. $12/month if you sign up with Google directly via a web browser. (More expensive if you try to sign up via an iOS app because Google jacks up the price there to make up for the cut that Apple Inc. insists on taking for all purchases made through Apple's platform.)

[89th]

I found my ad blocker keeps most youtube ads away, which is nice. However when I watch youtube on my TV the ads are there.

We did subscribe to YouTube Music a few months ago since we listen to songs/music on our Google Home all the time, especially during dinner (and @LuFins-Dad you should know it's 90% Encanto or Moana songs), so it was nice to remove those ads between songs.