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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 17:34 last edited by
    #577

    Eli Lilly is pulling its millions in ad spending on Twitter after last week’s fake posts debacle, according to a news report.

    When an imposter Lilly account with a “verified” blue check mark touted, “We are excited to announce insulin is free now,” it set off a mad scramble inside Lilly to reach Twitter and get the post taken down, according to the Washington Post and its sources inside the pharma. The problem, however, was made even worse when no one at Twitter responded for hours, likely due to new owner Elon Musk’s massive staff layoff.

    And in the hours that the fake post remained up Thursday afternoon, others joined in with “verified” imposter Lilly accounts with even more fake commentary. Lilly apologized on Friday at its official account@Lillypad over the “misleading message from a fake Lilly account.”

    However, the real damage had already been done. By Friday morning, Lilly stock had dropped by more than 5% from the day before. The Twitter stunt pulled down the stock price of other diabetes drugmakers, including Novo Nordisk and Sanofi. Lilly’s stock has yet to recover and, on Monday morning, remained down more than 4% over the past five days.

    https://endpts.com/eli-lilly-pulls-millions-in-twitter-advertising-after-fake-account-debacle-report/

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      xenon
      wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:09 last edited by
      #578

      Maybe Elon truly is a hero after all - burning twitter down from the inside.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:34 last edited by
        #579

        I really don’t know why they didn’t include some basic verification for the $8 a month. They used to do it for free. (At least Twitter didn’t charge, maybe employees did)

        Basically for $8 of revenue from this fake account Elon is losing millions from a global pharmaceutical company.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          Axtremus
          wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:49 last edited by
          #580

          Elon/Twitter may have fired everyone who used to verify applicants for the blue check marks, or the subscription software has simply streamlined away the verification process.

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            Horace
            wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:52 last edited by
            #581

            I assumed the "verified" label was deprecated. Lots of websites have "pro" or "supporter" tags on profiles, and I thought that's what Elon's version of the blue check was.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:56 last edited by
              #582

              He clearly didn't have time to figure out what everybody who he fired actually did for a living.

              In any company, there's all the funny little jobs that get done by a small number of people - it might not be well-documented, or even documented at all. So, some rich twat comes in, takes a look at the company from 10,000 feet, and fires all the people he doesn't think are needed. But he doesn't actually know what some of them do - he can't. And he leaves a bunch of people still working there who are going to be totally demoralized.

              Dumbass.

              I was only joking

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 00:54 last edited by
                #583

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  16 Nov 2022, 00:54

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                  George K
                  wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 00:58 last edited by George K
                  #584

                  @jon-nyc yeah, they're back, but what about Richard Gazinia, Harry Balzac, Anita Hanjabb, and all the others?

                  ETA: Forgot to mention Mike H.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 02:34 last edited by
                    #585

                    We used to say "indispensable people get fired".

                    Some did, some didn't

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 03:11 last edited by jon-nyc
                      #586

                      “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

                      • Charles de Gaulle

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • J jon-nyc
                        16 Nov 2022, 03:11

                        “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

                        • Charles de Gaulle
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                        Klaus
                        wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 09:38 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc

                        @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                        “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

                        ... and women. He meant to add that.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 16:51 last edited by
                          #588

                          Musk: "Work hard or get out."

                          Elon Musk issued an ultimatum to Twitter employees Wednesday morning: commit to a new “hardcore” Twitter or leave the company with severance pay.
                          Employees were told they had to a sign a pledge to stay on with the company. “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” read the email to all staff, which linked to an online form.
                          Make your technology a force for good. Sign up for The Tech Friend newsletter with Shira Ovide.

                          Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday would receive three months of severance pay, the message said.
                          In the midnight email, which was obtained by The Washington Post, Musk said Twitter “will need to be extremely hardcore” going forward. “This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
                          The pledge email, paired with a new policy mandating a return to the office, is expected to lead to even more attrition at a company whose staff Musk had already reduced by half. Musk said Twitter would be more of an engineer-driven operation going forward — and while the design and product-management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

                          The horror.

                          First no free lunches.
                          Then you have to show up at work.
                          Then, you actually have to work!

                          I imagine all those foosball tables will rake in a handy profit on ebay.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 16:58 last edited by
                            #589

                            I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              16 Nov 2022, 16:58

                              I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:03 last edited by
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                              @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                              I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                              Amen. I was on the team that oh so painfully developed a health system's project management office guidelines and tools. It was two and a half years of hideously boring meetings to come up with something I could have told them in ten minutes. It doesn't make any freaking difference what project management methodology you use. You just have to have one.

                              Over the years everyone has tried to make me a PM. I'm good at it, such as it is, because I'm not hesitant to challenge people who aren't doing what I want. I'd be an even more effective dictator. But it's an awful, thankless job with little if any personal satisfaction. You become in most cases a professional beggar, hoping people will actually do what they committed to doing.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:12 last edited by
                                #591

                                Seems like he’s trying to create a startup culture or change-the-world culture his other ventures have.

                                Probably tougher to pull off at Twitter since it doesn’t fit into either category.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                                H 1 Reply Last reply 16 Nov 2022, 17:30
                                • H Horace
                                  16 Nov 2022, 16:58

                                  I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:22 last edited by
                                  #592

                                  @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                  Seems like he’s trying to create a startup culture

                                  I thought the same thing

                                  @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                  I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                                  I always told my managers that I wanted 2 things from them.
                                  A raise
                                  Help finding my next position
                                  That's it, they can keep the management team-building, social nonsense

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    16 Nov 2022, 17:12

                                    Seems like he’s trying to create a startup culture or change-the-world culture his other ventures have.

                                    Probably tougher to pull off at Twitter since it doesn’t fit into either category.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:30 last edited by
                                    #593

                                    @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    Seems like he’s trying to create a startup culture or change-the-world culture his other ventures have.

                                    Probably tougher to pull off at Twitter since it doesn’t fit into either category.

                                    I suspect it has long since passed on into "most employees here have only a vague connection to how the business makes money" phase.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • M Mik
                                      16 Nov 2022, 17:03

                                      @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                                      Amen. I was on the team that oh so painfully developed a health system's project management office guidelines and tools. It was two and a half years of hideously boring meetings to come up with something I could have told them in ten minutes. It doesn't make any freaking difference what project management methodology you use. You just have to have one.

                                      Over the years everyone has tried to make me a PM. I'm good at it, such as it is, because I'm not hesitant to challenge people who aren't doing what I want. I'd be an even more effective dictator. But it's an awful, thankless job with little if any personal satisfaction. You become in most cases a professional beggar, hoping people will actually do what they committed to doing.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:42 last edited by
                                      #594

                                      @Mik said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      Over the years everyone has tried to make me a PM. I'm good at it, such as it is, because I'm not hesitant to challenge people who aren't doing what I want. I'd be an even more effective dictator. But it's an awful, thankless job with little if any personal satisfaction. You become in most cases a professional beggar, hoping people will actually do what they committed to doing.

                                      I did the first year of a Master's in Project Management back in the 90's - all paid for by the company I worked for. Thankfully I was saved by a job offer in Canada.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:48 last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #595

                                        In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

                                        Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

                                        There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

                                        A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                                        H M 2 Replies Last reply 16 Nov 2022, 18:03
                                        • G George K
                                          16 Nov 2022, 16:51

                                          Musk: "Work hard or get out."

                                          Elon Musk issued an ultimatum to Twitter employees Wednesday morning: commit to a new “hardcore” Twitter or leave the company with severance pay.
                                          Employees were told they had to a sign a pledge to stay on with the company. “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” read the email to all staff, which linked to an online form.
                                          Make your technology a force for good. Sign up for The Tech Friend newsletter with Shira Ovide.

                                          Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday would receive three months of severance pay, the message said.
                                          In the midnight email, which was obtained by The Washington Post, Musk said Twitter “will need to be extremely hardcore” going forward. “This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
                                          The pledge email, paired with a new policy mandating a return to the office, is expected to lead to even more attrition at a company whose staff Musk had already reduced by half. Musk said Twitter would be more of an engineer-driven operation going forward — and while the design and product-management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

                                          The horror.

                                          First no free lunches.
                                          Then you have to show up at work.
                                          Then, you actually have to work!

                                          I imagine all those foosball tables will rake in a handy profit on ebay.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:48 last edited by
                                          #596

                                          @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                          Musk: "Work hard or get out."

                                          Elon Musk issued an ultimatum to Twitter employees Wednesday morning: commit to a new “hardcore” Twitter or leave the company with severance pay.
                                          Employees were told they had to a sign a pledge to stay on with the company. “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” read the email to all staff, which linked to an online form.
                                          Make your technology a force for good. Sign up for The Tech Friend newsletter with Shira Ovide.

                                          Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday would receive three months of severance pay, the message said.
                                          In the midnight email, which was obtained by The Washington Post, Musk said Twitter “will need to be extremely hardcore” going forward. “This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
                                          The pledge email, paired with a new policy mandating a return to the office, is expected to lead to even more attrition at a company whose staff Musk had already reduced by half. Musk said Twitter would be more of an engineer-driven operation going forward — and while the design and product-management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

                                          The horror.

                                          First no free lunches.
                                          Then you have to show up at work.
                                          Then, you actually have to work!

                                          I imagine all those foosball tables will rake in a handy profit on ebay.

                                          He should personally sign them and authenticate they came from Twitter HQ. Would likely add a lot of value…

                                          The Brad

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