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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #581

    I assumed the "verified" label was deprecated. Lots of websites have "pro" or "supporter" tags on profiles, and I thought that's what Elon's version of the blue check was.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by
      #582

      He clearly didn't have time to figure out what everybody who he fired actually did for a living.

      In any company, there's all the funny little jobs that get done by a small number of people - it might not be well-documented, or even documented at all. So, some rich twat comes in, takes a look at the company from 10,000 feet, and fires all the people he doesn't think are needed. But he doesn't actually know what some of them do - he can't. And he leaves a bunch of people still working there who are going to be totally demoralized.

      Dumbass.

      I was only joking

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #583

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by George K
          #584

          @jon-nyc yeah, they're back, but what about Richard Gazinia, Harry Balzac, Anita Hanjabb, and all the others?

          ETA: Forgot to mention Mike H.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • CopperC Online
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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by
            #585

            We used to say "indispensable people get fired".

            Some did, some didn't

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            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
              #586

              “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

              • Charles de Gaulle

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

                • Charles de Gaulle
                KlausK Offline
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                Klaus
                wrote on last edited by
                #587

                @jon-nyc

                @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

                ... and women. He meant to add that.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #588

                  Musk: "Work hard or get out."

                  Elon Musk issued an ultimatum to Twitter employees Wednesday morning: commit to a new “hardcore” Twitter or leave the company with severance pay.
                  Employees were told they had to a sign a pledge to stay on with the company. “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” read the email to all staff, which linked to an online form.
                  Make your technology a force for good. Sign up for The Tech Friend newsletter with Shira Ovide.

                  Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday would receive three months of severance pay, the message said.
                  In the midnight email, which was obtained by The Washington Post, Musk said Twitter “will need to be extremely hardcore” going forward. “This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
                  The pledge email, paired with a new policy mandating a return to the office, is expected to lead to even more attrition at a company whose staff Musk had already reduced by half. Musk said Twitter would be more of an engineer-driven operation going forward — and while the design and product-management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

                  The horror.

                  First no free lunches.
                  Then you have to show up at work.
                  Then, you actually have to work!

                  I imagine all those foosball tables will rake in a handy profit on ebay.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                  LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #589

                    I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                      MikM Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #590

                      @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                      I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                      Amen. I was on the team that oh so painfully developed a health system's project management office guidelines and tools. It was two and a half years of hideously boring meetings to come up with something I could have told them in ten minutes. It doesn't make any freaking difference what project management methodology you use. You just have to have one.

                      Over the years everyone has tried to make me a PM. I'm good at it, such as it is, because I'm not hesitant to challenge people who aren't doing what I want. I'd be an even more effective dictator. But it's an awful, thankless job with little if any personal satisfaction. You become in most cases a professional beggar, hoping people will actually do what they committed to doing.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #591

                        Seems like he’s trying to create a startup culture or change-the-world culture his other ventures have.

                        Probably tougher to pull off at Twitter since it doesn’t fit into either category.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                        HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                        • HoraceH Horace

                          I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                          CopperC Online
                          CopperC Online
                          Copper
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #592

                          @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                          Seems like he’s trying to create a startup culture

                          I thought the same thing

                          @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                          I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                          I always told my managers that I wanted 2 things from them.
                          A raise
                          Help finding my next position
                          That's it, they can keep the management team-building, social nonsense

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Seems like he’s trying to create a startup culture or change-the-world culture his other ventures have.

                            Probably tougher to pull off at Twitter since it doesn’t fit into either category.

                            HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #593

                            @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                            Seems like he’s trying to create a startup culture or change-the-world culture his other ventures have.

                            Probably tougher to pull off at Twitter since it doesn’t fit into either category.

                            I suspect it has long since passed on into "most employees here have only a vague connection to how the business makes money" phase.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • MikM Mik

                              @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                              I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                              Amen. I was on the team that oh so painfully developed a health system's project management office guidelines and tools. It was two and a half years of hideously boring meetings to come up with something I could have told them in ten minutes. It doesn't make any freaking difference what project management methodology you use. You just have to have one.

                              Over the years everyone has tried to make me a PM. I'm good at it, such as it is, because I'm not hesitant to challenge people who aren't doing what I want. I'd be an even more effective dictator. But it's an awful, thankless job with little if any personal satisfaction. You become in most cases a professional beggar, hoping people will actually do what they committed to doing.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #594

                              @Mik said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                              Over the years everyone has tried to make me a PM. I'm good at it, such as it is, because I'm not hesitant to challenge people who aren't doing what I want. I'd be an even more effective dictator. But it's an awful, thankless job with little if any personal satisfaction. You become in most cases a professional beggar, hoping people will actually do what they committed to doing.

                              I did the first year of a Master's in Project Management back in the 90's - all paid for by the company I worked for. Thankfully I was saved by a job offer in Canada.

                              I was only joking

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                #595

                                In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

                                Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

                                There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

                                A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                                HoraceH MikM 2 Replies Last reply
                                • George KG George K

                                  Musk: "Work hard or get out."

                                  Elon Musk issued an ultimatum to Twitter employees Wednesday morning: commit to a new “hardcore” Twitter or leave the company with severance pay.
                                  Employees were told they had to a sign a pledge to stay on with the company. “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” read the email to all staff, which linked to an online form.
                                  Make your technology a force for good. Sign up for The Tech Friend newsletter with Shira Ovide.

                                  Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday would receive three months of severance pay, the message said.
                                  In the midnight email, which was obtained by The Washington Post, Musk said Twitter “will need to be extremely hardcore” going forward. “This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
                                  The pledge email, paired with a new policy mandating a return to the office, is expected to lead to even more attrition at a company whose staff Musk had already reduced by half. Musk said Twitter would be more of an engineer-driven operation going forward — and while the design and product-management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

                                  The horror.

                                  First no free lunches.
                                  Then you have to show up at work.
                                  Then, you actually have to work!

                                  I imagine all those foosball tables will rake in a handy profit on ebay.

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #596

                                  @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                  Musk: "Work hard or get out."

                                  Elon Musk issued an ultimatum to Twitter employees Wednesday morning: commit to a new “hardcore” Twitter or leave the company with severance pay.
                                  Employees were told they had to a sign a pledge to stay on with the company. “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” read the email to all staff, which linked to an online form.
                                  Make your technology a force for good. Sign up for The Tech Friend newsletter with Shira Ovide.

                                  Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday would receive three months of severance pay, the message said.
                                  In the midnight email, which was obtained by The Washington Post, Musk said Twitter “will need to be extremely hardcore” going forward. “This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
                                  The pledge email, paired with a new policy mandating a return to the office, is expected to lead to even more attrition at a company whose staff Musk had already reduced by half. Musk said Twitter would be more of an engineer-driven operation going forward — and while the design and product-management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

                                  The horror.

                                  First no free lunches.
                                  Then you have to show up at work.
                                  Then, you actually have to work!

                                  I imagine all those foosball tables will rake in a handy profit on ebay.

                                  He should personally sign them and authenticate they came from Twitter HQ. Would likely add a lot of value…

                                  The Brad

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

                                    Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

                                    There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

                                    A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

                                    HoraceH Offline
                                    HoraceH Offline
                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #597

                                    @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

                                    Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

                                    There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

                                    A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

                                    There is a certain correlation with genetic phenotype which is difficult not to notice.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • 89th8 Offline
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                                      89th
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #598

                                      From: Elon Musk
                                      To: Team [at Twitter]
                                      Subj. A Fork in the Road
                                      Date: Nov. 16, 2022 [time stamp removed]

                                      Going forward, to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0 and succeed in an increasingly competitive world, we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.

                                      Twitter will also be much more engineering-driven. Design and product management will still be very important and report to me, but those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.

                                      At its heart, Twitter is a software and servers company, so l think this makes sense.

                                      If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below:

                                      [Link removed]

                                      Anyone who has not done so by 5pm ET tomorrow (Thursday) will receive three months of severance.

                                      Whatever decision you make, thank you for your efforts to make Twitter successful.

                                      Elon

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #599

                                        Sorry for formatting. Above is an email from Elon to all of Twitter this morning. I LOL'd at his style. I dig it, mainly because I don't work there, but he is a catalyst for change, like it or not!

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #600

                                          He's good at demanding more, but not so keen on providing more compensation. It'll appeal to some. It would have appealed to me when I was younger.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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