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  • H Horace
    13 Nov 2022, 14:36

    I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 16:21 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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    @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

    You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

    I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

    Please love yourself.

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      13 Nov 2022, 16:21

      @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

      I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

      You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

      I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

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      Horace
      wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 16:34 last edited by
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      @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

      @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

      I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

      You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

      They'll all be fine. You don't get a job at Twitter by having a bad resume or bad interview skills or a bad phenotype.

      I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

      No, it's well established that universities as a whole are woke factories now. Not that you learn wokedom in CS courses, but the extra-academic culture is entirely about that.

      You can't talk about learning fuzzy real world skills in school, without acknowledging that absorbing the correct political attitudes, attitudes which are prerequisite for standing in front of large organizations and attesting to the correct things, is one of the most important such skills. I mean, if one wants to advance up the hierarchy.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • H Horace
        13 Nov 2022, 16:34

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

        You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

        They'll all be fine. You don't get a job at Twitter by having a bad resume or bad interview skills or a bad phenotype.

        I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

        No, it's well established that universities as a whole are woke factories now. Not that you learn wokedom in CS courses, but the extra-academic culture is entirely about that.

        You can't talk about learning fuzzy real world skills in school, without acknowledging that absorbing the correct political attitudes, attitudes which are prerequisite for standing in front of large organizations and attesting to the correct things, is one of the most important such skills. I mean, if one wants to advance up the hierarchy.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 16:41 last edited by
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        @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        You can't talk about learning fuzzy real world skills in school, without acknowledging that absorbing the correct political attitudes, attitudes which are prerequisite for standing in front of large organizations and attesting to the correct things, is one of the most important such skills. I mean, if one wants to advance up the hierarchy.

        Yeah. Again with my comment about autodidacts and polymaths (or "multipotentialites" if you're partial to trendier jargon). It'd help with a lot of this.

        Please love yourself.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 14:05 last edited by
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          You were warned.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 17:34 last edited by
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            Eli Lilly is pulling its millions in ad spending on Twitter after last week’s fake posts debacle, according to a news report.

            When an imposter Lilly account with a “verified” blue check mark touted, “We are excited to announce insulin is free now,” it set off a mad scramble inside Lilly to reach Twitter and get the post taken down, according to the Washington Post and its sources inside the pharma. The problem, however, was made even worse when no one at Twitter responded for hours, likely due to new owner Elon Musk’s massive staff layoff.

            And in the hours that the fake post remained up Thursday afternoon, others joined in with “verified” imposter Lilly accounts with even more fake commentary. Lilly apologized on Friday at its official account@Lillypad over the “misleading message from a fake Lilly account.”

            However, the real damage had already been done. By Friday morning, Lilly stock had dropped by more than 5% from the day before. The Twitter stunt pulled down the stock price of other diabetes drugmakers, including Novo Nordisk and Sanofi. Lilly’s stock has yet to recover and, on Monday morning, remained down more than 4% over the past five days.

            https://endpts.com/eli-lilly-pulls-millions-in-twitter-advertising-after-fake-account-debacle-report/

            You were warned.

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              xenon
              wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:09 last edited by
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              Maybe Elon truly is a hero after all - burning twitter down from the inside.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:34 last edited by
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                I really don’t know why they didn’t include some basic verification for the $8 a month. They used to do it for free. (At least Twitter didn’t charge, maybe employees did)

                Basically for $8 of revenue from this fake account Elon is losing millions from a global pharmaceutical company.

                You were warned.

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:49 last edited by
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                  Elon/Twitter may have fired everyone who used to verify applicants for the blue check marks, or the subscription software has simply streamlined away the verification process.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:52 last edited by
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                    I assumed the "verified" label was deprecated. Lots of websites have "pro" or "supporter" tags on profiles, and I thought that's what Elon's version of the blue check was.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:56 last edited by
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                      He clearly didn't have time to figure out what everybody who he fired actually did for a living.

                      In any company, there's all the funny little jobs that get done by a small number of people - it might not be well-documented, or even documented at all. So, some rich twat comes in, takes a look at the company from 10,000 feet, and fires all the people he doesn't think are needed. But he doesn't actually know what some of them do - he can't. And he leaves a bunch of people still working there who are going to be totally demoralized.

                      Dumbass.

                      I was only joking

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 00:54 last edited by
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                        You were warned.

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                          16 Nov 2022, 00:54

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                          George K
                          wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 00:58 last edited by George K
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                          @jon-nyc yeah, they're back, but what about Richard Gazinia, Harry Balzac, Anita Hanjabb, and all the others?

                          ETA: Forgot to mention Mike H.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 02:34 last edited by
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                            We used to say "indispensable people get fired".

                            Some did, some didn't

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 03:11 last edited by jon-nyc
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                              “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

                              • Charles de Gaulle

                              You were warned.

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                16 Nov 2022, 03:11

                                “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

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                                Klaus
                                wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 09:38 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc

                                @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

                                ... and women. He meant to add that.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 16:51 last edited by
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                                  Musk: "Work hard or get out."

                                  Elon Musk issued an ultimatum to Twitter employees Wednesday morning: commit to a new “hardcore” Twitter or leave the company with severance pay.
                                  Employees were told they had to a sign a pledge to stay on with the company. “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” read the email to all staff, which linked to an online form.
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                                  Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday would receive three months of severance pay, the message said.
                                  In the midnight email, which was obtained by The Washington Post, Musk said Twitter “will need to be extremely hardcore” going forward. “This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
                                  The pledge email, paired with a new policy mandating a return to the office, is expected to lead to even more attrition at a company whose staff Musk had already reduced by half. Musk said Twitter would be more of an engineer-driven operation going forward — and while the design and product-management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

                                  The horror.

                                  First no free lunches.
                                  Then you have to show up at work.
                                  Then, you actually have to work!

                                  I imagine all those foosball tables will rake in a handy profit on ebay.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 16:58 last edited by
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                                    I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • H Horace
                                      16 Nov 2022, 16:58

                                      I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:03 last edited by
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                                      @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                                      Amen. I was on the team that oh so painfully developed a health system's project management office guidelines and tools. It was two and a half years of hideously boring meetings to come up with something I could have told them in ten minutes. It doesn't make any freaking difference what project management methodology you use. You just have to have one.

                                      Over the years everyone has tried to make me a PM. I'm good at it, such as it is, because I'm not hesitant to challenge people who aren't doing what I want. I'd be an even more effective dictator. But it's an awful, thankless job with little if any personal satisfaction. You become in most cases a professional beggar, hoping people will actually do what they committed to doing.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:12 last edited by
                                        #591

                                        Seems like he’s trying to create a startup culture or change-the-world culture his other ventures have.

                                        Probably tougher to pull off at Twitter since it doesn’t fit into either category.

                                        You were warned.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          16 Nov 2022, 16:58

                                          I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:22 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                          Seems like he’s trying to create a startup culture

                                          I thought the same thing

                                          @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                          I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                                          I always told my managers that I wanted 2 things from them.
                                          A raise
                                          Help finding my next position
                                          That's it, they can keep the management team-building, social nonsense

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