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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #571

    Two Weeks of Chaos

    Mr. Musk plans to begin making employees pay for lunch — which had been free — at the company cafeteria, two people said.

    The lowest-paid job at Twitter earns $106K. The lunches alone (at $10 each) probably are worth another $2K in benefit, assuming you "work" 200 days a year.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Online
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      Horace
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      #572

      I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
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        #573

        @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

        You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

        I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

          You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

          I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

          HoraceH Online
          HoraceH Online
          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #574

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

          You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

          They'll all be fine. You don't get a job at Twitter by having a bad resume or bad interview skills or a bad phenotype.

          I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

          No, it's well established that universities as a whole are woke factories now. Not that you learn wokedom in CS courses, but the extra-academic culture is entirely about that.

          You can't talk about learning fuzzy real world skills in school, without acknowledging that absorbing the correct political attitudes, attitudes which are prerequisite for standing in front of large organizations and attesting to the correct things, is one of the most important such skills. I mean, if one wants to advance up the hierarchy.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

            You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

            They'll all be fine. You don't get a job at Twitter by having a bad resume or bad interview skills or a bad phenotype.

            I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

            No, it's well established that universities as a whole are woke factories now. Not that you learn wokedom in CS courses, but the extra-academic culture is entirely about that.

            You can't talk about learning fuzzy real world skills in school, without acknowledging that absorbing the correct political attitudes, attitudes which are prerequisite for standing in front of large organizations and attesting to the correct things, is one of the most important such skills. I mean, if one wants to advance up the hierarchy.

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #575

            @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            You can't talk about learning fuzzy real world skills in school, without acknowledging that absorbing the correct political attitudes, attitudes which are prerequisite for standing in front of large organizations and attesting to the correct things, is one of the most important such skills. I mean, if one wants to advance up the hierarchy.

            Yeah. Again with my comment about autodidacts and polymaths (or "multipotentialites" if you're partial to trendier jargon). It'd help with a lot of this.

            Please love yourself.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              #576

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              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                #577

                Eli Lilly is pulling its millions in ad spending on Twitter after last week’s fake posts debacle, according to a news report.

                When an imposter Lilly account with a “verified” blue check mark touted, “We are excited to announce insulin is free now,” it set off a mad scramble inside Lilly to reach Twitter and get the post taken down, according to the Washington Post and its sources inside the pharma. The problem, however, was made even worse when no one at Twitter responded for hours, likely due to new owner Elon Musk’s massive staff layoff.

                And in the hours that the fake post remained up Thursday afternoon, others joined in with “verified” imposter Lilly accounts with even more fake commentary. Lilly apologized on Friday at its official account@Lillypad over the “misleading message from a fake Lilly account.”

                However, the real damage had already been done. By Friday morning, Lilly stock had dropped by more than 5% from the day before. The Twitter stunt pulled down the stock price of other diabetes drugmakers, including Novo Nordisk and Sanofi. Lilly’s stock has yet to recover and, on Monday morning, remained down more than 4% over the past five days.

                https://endpts.com/eli-lilly-pulls-millions-in-twitter-advertising-after-fake-account-debacle-report/

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  xenon
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                  #578

                  Maybe Elon truly is a hero after all - burning twitter down from the inside.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #579

                    I really don’t know why they didn’t include some basic verification for the $8 a month. They used to do it for free. (At least Twitter didn’t charge, maybe employees did)

                    Basically for $8 of revenue from this fake account Elon is losing millions from a global pharmaceutical company.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Axtremus
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                      #580

                      Elon/Twitter may have fired everyone who used to verify applicants for the blue check marks, or the subscription software has simply streamlined away the verification process.

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                      • HoraceH Online
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                        Horace
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                        #581

                        I assumed the "verified" label was deprecated. Lots of websites have "pro" or "supporter" tags on profiles, and I thought that's what Elon's version of the blue check was.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          He clearly didn't have time to figure out what everybody who he fired actually did for a living.

                          In any company, there's all the funny little jobs that get done by a small number of people - it might not be well-documented, or even documented at all. So, some rich twat comes in, takes a look at the company from 10,000 feet, and fires all the people he doesn't think are needed. But he doesn't actually know what some of them do - he can't. And he leaves a bunch of people still working there who are going to be totally demoralized.

                          Dumbass.

                          I was only joking

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #583

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by George K
                              #584

                              @jon-nyc yeah, they're back, but what about Richard Gazinia, Harry Balzac, Anita Hanjabb, and all the others?

                              ETA: Forgot to mention Mike H.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • CopperC Offline
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                                Copper
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #585

                                We used to say "indispensable people get fired".

                                Some did, some didn't

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #586

                                  “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

                                  • Charles de Gaulle

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

                                    • Charles de Gaulle
                                    KlausK Offline
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                                    Klaus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #587

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    “The graveyards are filled with indispensable men.”

                                    ... and women. He meant to add that.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #588

                                      Musk: "Work hard or get out."

                                      Elon Musk issued an ultimatum to Twitter employees Wednesday morning: commit to a new “hardcore” Twitter or leave the company with severance pay.
                                      Employees were told they had to a sign a pledge to stay on with the company. “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” read the email to all staff, which linked to an online form.
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                                      Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday would receive three months of severance pay, the message said.
                                      In the midnight email, which was obtained by The Washington Post, Musk said Twitter “will need to be extremely hardcore” going forward. “This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
                                      The pledge email, paired with a new policy mandating a return to the office, is expected to lead to even more attrition at a company whose staff Musk had already reduced by half. Musk said Twitter would be more of an engineer-driven operation going forward — and while the design and product-management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

                                      The horror.

                                      First no free lunches.
                                      Then you have to show up at work.
                                      Then, you actually have to work!

                                      I imagine all those foosball tables will rake in a handy profit on ebay.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • HoraceH Online
                                        HoraceH Online
                                        Horace
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                                        #589

                                        I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                                          MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
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                                          #590

                                          @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                          I’ve spent decades trying to understand what project managers actually contribute. I suspect Musk has pondered that question as well.

                                          Amen. I was on the team that oh so painfully developed a health system's project management office guidelines and tools. It was two and a half years of hideously boring meetings to come up with something I could have told them in ten minutes. It doesn't make any freaking difference what project management methodology you use. You just have to have one.

                                          Over the years everyone has tried to make me a PM. I'm good at it, such as it is, because I'm not hesitant to challenge people who aren't doing what I want. I'd be an even more effective dictator. But it's an awful, thankless job with little if any personal satisfaction. You become in most cases a professional beggar, hoping people will actually do what they committed to doing.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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