Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.
Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.
Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.
You can't be all "let the market decide" and at the same time believe in some wooey divide between real work paid in real money and fake work paid in real money where the only difference is in your mind.
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 11:07 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Nov 2022, 11:33@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.
Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.
Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.
You can't be all "let the market decide" and at the same time believe in some wooey divide between real work paid in real money and fake work paid in real money where the only difference is in your mind.
The world has indeed changed, it’s just that some people are struggling to catch up. I said as much when I tried to catch the bus to the local steel mill this morning. First, there was no bus, and then the steel mill had closed 30 years ago.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 12:14 last edited by
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wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 12:41 last edited by
If they're going to ban everybody who impersonates somebody else, isn't the blue check superfluous?
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If they're going to ban everybody who impersonates somebody else, isn't the blue check superfluous?
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 12:47 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes supposedly, now, if you create a parody account, it has to say "parody" in the name, not just the description.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 12:49 last edited by
Any parody or just mimicry? Does Titania McGrath now have to put parody in the name?
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@Doctor-Phibes supposedly, now, if you create a parody account, it has to say "parody" in the name, not just the description.
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 12:50 last edited by@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes supposedly, now, if you create a parody account, it has to say "parody" in the name, not just the description.
So what happens if I ask them to blue-check my parody account?
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@Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.
Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.
Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 12:51 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.
Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.
Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.
No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.
As for the rest of the working world that isn't plopping computer keys most of the day, most of those folks are physically back at work, with more coming back everyday. I think the exception are the people that have figured out the dole allows them to live as comfortably as working their lower pay jobs. As we lurch into recession again, and inflation takes its toll, it will be interesting to see what happens with all classes of workers...
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wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 12:53 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Any parody or just mimicry? Does Titania McGrath now have to put parody in the name?
What happens if I use irony or sarcasm in my posts? Do I need to have somebody walk in front of me waving a big red flag with 'PARODY' written on it, so that everybody realises I'm only joking?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.
Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.
Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.
No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.
As for the rest of the working world that isn't plopping computer keys most of the day, most of those folks are physically back at work, with more coming back everyday. I think the exception are the people that have figured out the dole allows them to live as comfortably as working their lower pay jobs. As we lurch into recession again, and inflation takes its toll, it will be interesting to see what happens with all classes of workers...
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 13:33 last edited by@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.
It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.
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@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.
It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 14:46 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.
It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.
One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.
We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.
Stereotypes are so useful!
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@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes supposedly, now, if you create a parody account, it has to say "parody" in the name, not just the description.
So what happens if I ask them to blue-check my parody account?
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 14:49 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
So what happens if I ask them to blue-check my parody account?
You pay them $8/month, they give you your blue check.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.
It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.
One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.
We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.
Stereotypes are so useful!
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 14:53 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.
It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.
One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.
We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.
Stereotypes are so useful!
If you don't show up for the office, how in the hell are they to know if you're wearing a suit or not?!
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.
It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.
One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.
We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.
Stereotypes are so useful!
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 14:54 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.
Insert joke about American managers with software engineering teams in India or Eastern Europe, reference Dilbert.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.
It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.
One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.
We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.
Stereotypes are so useful!
If you don't show up for the office, how in the hell are they to know if you're wearing a suit or not?!
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 14:57 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.
It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.
One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.
We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.
Stereotypes are so useful!
If you don't show up for the office, how in the hell are they to know if you're wearing a suit or not?!
I'm British. If we ever showered, we'd do it in a suit.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 15:03 last edited by
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@Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.
Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.
Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.
wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 17:17 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.
Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.
Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.
OK, well if it is just twitter, I assume most of their employees are in the HR department and do nothing but irritate each other. Let them stay home.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 17:50 last edited by
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@jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
This is the right attitude
Wouldn’t give it much credence. He’s not verified.
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wrote on 12 Nov 2022, 04:39 last edited by
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wrote on 12 Nov 2022, 10:55 last edited by
@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Ruh Roh...
Memo to the company about returning to to in person work
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*Sorry that this is my first email to the whole company, but there is no way to sugarcoat the message.Frankly, the economic picture ahead is dire, especially for a company like ours that is so dependent on advertising in a challenging economic climate. Moreover, 70% of our advertising is brand, rather than specific performance, which makes us doubly vulnerable!
That is why the priority over the past ten days has been to develop and launch Twitter Blue Verified subscriptions (huge props to the team!). Without significant subscription revenue, there is a good chance Twitter will not survive the upcoming economic downturn. We need roughly half of our revenue to be subscription.
Of course, we will still then be significantly reliant on advertising, so I am spending time with our sales & partnerships teams to ensure that Twitter continues to be appealing to advertisers. This is the Spaces discussion that Robin, Yoel and I hosted today:
[Links to a Twitter Spaces recording called "Elon Q&A: Advertising & the Future."]
The road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed. We are also changing Twitter policy such that remote work is no longer allowed, unless you have a specific exception. Managers will send the exceptions lists to me for review an approval.
Starting tomorrow (Thursday), everyone is required to be in the office for a minimum of 40 hours per week. Obviously, if you are physically unable to travel to an office or have a critical personal obligation, then your absence is understandable.
I look forward to working with you to take Twitter to a whole new level. The potential is truly incredible!
Thanks,
Elon*
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