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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    But I wouldn’t bet on bankruptcy now, I think he’s just trying to get people to take the issues seriously.

    Who would the target audience be for this “Twitter may go bankrupt” messaging? How would this work to Twitter or Musk’s advantage?

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    @Axtremus

    Maybe suppliers and employees.

    Maybe co-investors that he might be trying to raise operating funds from.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @Axtremus

      Maybe suppliers and employees.

      Maybe co-investors that he might be trying to raise operating funds from.

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      Axtremus
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      @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

      @Axtremus

      Maybe suppliers and employees.

      Maybe co-investors that he might be trying to raise operating funds from.

      Trying to game this out …

      Suppliers — telegraphing bankruptcy is more likely to get the suppliers to tighten credit and shorten payment terms, no? Not advantageous to Twitter.

      Employees — is the objective to get more employees to jump ship on their own (as opposed to laying them off) to save a little bit on layoff expenses? Not clear if this would be an appreciable advantageous to Twitter.

      Co-investors — not clear how it would help to convince investors (be it current or prospective investors) to put more money into a business that is about to go bankrupt. :man-shrugging:

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        Seems like he’s trying to run a tech company like a Victorian cotton mill.

        Somebody has blundered.

        The true believers will love it

        The second string will hate it

        win/win

        I don’t think he’s going to get the people he wants if he forces his employees to come into office.

        The working world has changed.

        And another year of stacking inflation and lower employment prospects will change it again. I’m not saying it will go back to what it was, but the pendulum will swing…

        No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over. It was already changing before the pandemic and that accelerated the process. I work for a much more conservative company than any of the tech places and even we were slowly moving that way.

        I actually quite like going into the office, but more than that I like having the freedom of choice. Elon sounds like a reactionary.

        You can force people to do something they think is really stupid for a limited time, but not for the long haul.

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

        Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

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        • CopperC Copper

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

          Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #540

          @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

          Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

          Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

            Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

            Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #541

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

            Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

            Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.

            You can't be all "let the market decide" and at the same time believe in some wooey divide between real work paid in real money and fake work paid in real money where the only difference is in your mind.

            Please love yourself.

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              #542

              So there’s now a big problem with people purchasing blue checks and mimicking verified brands.

              My guess is they’ll need to include actual verification as part of the purchased blue checks.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                jon-nyc
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                #543

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #544

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                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                    @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                    No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

                    Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

                    Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.

                    You can't be all "let the market decide" and at the same time believe in some wooey divide between real work paid in real money and fake work paid in real money where the only difference is in your mind.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #545

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                    @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                    No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

                    Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

                    Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.

                    You can't be all "let the market decide" and at the same time believe in some wooey divide between real work paid in real money and fake work paid in real money where the only difference is in your mind.

                    The world has indeed changed, it’s just that some people are struggling to catch up. I said as much when I tried to catch the bus to the local steel mill this morning. First, there was no bus, and then the steel mill had closed 30 years ago.

                    I was only joking

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #546

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #547

                        If they're going to ban everybody who impersonates somebody else, isn't the blue check superfluous?

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          If they're going to ban everybody who impersonates somebody else, isn't the blue check superfluous?

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                          #548

                          @Doctor-Phibes supposedly, now, if you create a parody account, it has to say "parody" in the name, not just the description.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #549

                            Any parody or just mimicry? Does Titania McGrath now have to put parody in the name?

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • George KG George K

                              @Doctor-Phibes supposedly, now, if you create a parody account, it has to say "parody" in the name, not just the description.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #550

                              @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                              @Doctor-Phibes supposedly, now, if you create a parody account, it has to say "parody" in the name, not just the description.

                              So what happens if I ask them to blue-check my parody account?

                              86f22668-4d40-47af-b0d9-915582906ca2-image.png

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

                                Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

                                Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #551

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

                                Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

                                Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.

                                No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.

                                As for the rest of the working world that isn't plopping computer keys most of the day, most of those folks are physically back at work, with more coming back everyday. I think the exception are the people that have figured out the dole allows them to live as comfortably as working their lower pay jobs. As we lurch into recession again, and inflation takes its toll, it will be interesting to see what happens with all classes of workers...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Any parody or just mimicry? Does Titania McGrath now have to put parody in the name?

                                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #552

                                  @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                  Any parody or just mimicry? Does Titania McGrath now have to put parody in the name?

                                  What happens if I use irony or sarcasm in my posts? Do I need to have somebody walk in front of me waving a big red flag with 'PARODY' written on it, so that everybody realises I'm only joking?

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

                                    Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

                                    Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.

                                    No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.

                                    As for the rest of the working world that isn't plopping computer keys most of the day, most of those folks are physically back at work, with more coming back everyday. I think the exception are the people that have figured out the dole allows them to live as comfortably as working their lower pay jobs. As we lurch into recession again, and inflation takes its toll, it will be interesting to see what happens with all classes of workers...

                                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #553

                                    @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.

                                    It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.

                                      It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #554

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.

                                      It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.

                                      One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.

                                      We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.

                                      Stereotypes are so useful!

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes supposedly, now, if you create a parody account, it has to say "parody" in the name, not just the description.

                                        So what happens if I ask them to blue-check my parody account?

                                        86f22668-4d40-47af-b0d9-915582906ca2-image.png

                                        AxtremusA Away
                                        AxtremusA Away
                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #555

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                        So what happens if I ask them to blue-check my parody account?

                                        You pay them $8/month, they give you your blue check.

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                          @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                          No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.

                                          It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.

                                          One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.

                                          We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.

                                          Stereotypes are so useful!

                                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          #556

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                          @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                          No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.

                                          It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.

                                          One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.

                                          We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.

                                          Stereotypes are so useful!

                                          If you don't show up for the office, how in the hell are they to know if you're wearing a suit or not?!

                                          Please love yourself.

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