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    Klaus
    wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 12:58 last edited by
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    I assume you can take a company private if you control 51% of the shares?

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      George K
      wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 12:59 last edited by
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      @Klaus I'd think so.

      Would that qualify as a "hostile takeover?"

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 13:03 last edited by
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        How do you post gifs?

        https://tenor.com/view/popcorns-crackhead-eating-popcorn-food-junk-gif-14546221

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        • K Klaus
          14 Apr 2022, 12:50

          @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          @Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          Wouldn't banks happily give him a loan?

          The loan will need to be paid back, with interest. The money still needs to come from somewhere. With old school buyout, you’d try to convince the bank that the company you’re buying will generate enough cash to pay back the loan. Twitter is not even profitable right now.

          He could use a part of his stocks in Tesla and SpaceX as collateral, no?

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 13:03 last edited by
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          @Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          @Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          Wouldn't banks happily give him a loan?

          The loan will need to be paid back, with interest. The money still needs to come from somewhere. With old school buyout, you’d try to convince the bank that the company you’re buying will generate enough cash to pay back the loan. Twitter is not even profitable right now.

          He could use a part of his stocks in Tesla and SpaceX as collateral, no?

          Gets even more complicated once the other companies are brought into this deal. Yes, the stocks may be made collaterals, but you’d still need cash flow to service the loan. That shifts the argument to cash flow. SpaceX is still in the “hemorrhage money for R&D” phase. Tesla has positive cash flow but does not issue cash dividend. Musk still needs to go through a bunch of mechanisms to take money out of Tesla’s cash flow to service his (hypothetical) Twitter loan.

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          • G George K
            14 Apr 2022, 12:59

            @Klaus I'd think so.

            Would that qualify as a "hostile takeover?"

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 13:05 last edited by
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            @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            @Klaus I'd think so.

            Would that qualify as a "hostile takeover?"

            Hostile refers to the relationship with current management. We’ll have to see how they react.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              14 Apr 2022, 13:03

              How do you post gifs?

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              George K
              wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 13:08 last edited by
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              @LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

              How do you post gifs?

              https://tenor.com/view/popcorns-crackhead-eating-popcorn-food-junk-gif-14546221

              Click here and paste URL:

              Screen Shot 2022-04-14 at 8.06.39 AM.png

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 13:08 last edited by
                #124

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 13:39 last edited by
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                  What's to stop Musk from buying another 45% of the company? That would give him control, no?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 14:00 last edited by
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                    Tucker had a suggestion in his monologue last night... People who believe in free speech should buy Twitter stock and then let Elon have their proxies.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      14 Apr 2022, 14:00

                      Tucker had a suggestion in his monologue last night... People who believe in free speech should buy Twitter stock and then let Elon have their proxies.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 14:07 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                      Tucker had a suggestion in his monologue last night... People who believe in free speech should buy Twitter stock and then let Elon have their proxies.

                      How much of Twitter's stock has Tucker bought?

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 14:10 last edited by
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                        I don’t see this actually happening, but it would be nice if it did.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • A Axtremus
                          14 Apr 2022, 14:07

                          @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                          Tucker had a suggestion in his monologue last night... People who believe in free speech should buy Twitter stock and then let Elon have their proxies.

                          How much of Twitter's stock has Tucker bought?

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 14:14 last edited by
                          #129

                          @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                          @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                          Tucker had a suggestion in his monologue last night... People who believe in free speech should buy Twitter stock and then let Elon have their proxies.

                          How much of Twitter's stock has Tucker bought?

                          I ain't your Google Mommy.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • J Jolly
                            14 Apr 2022, 14:14

                            @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                            @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                            Tucker had a suggestion in his monologue last night... People who believe in free speech should buy Twitter stock and then let Elon have their proxies.

                            How much of Twitter's stock has Tucker bought?

                            I ain't your Google Mommy.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 14:27 last edited by
                            #130

                            @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                            @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                            @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                            Tucker had a suggestion in his monologue last night... People who believe in free speech should buy Twitter stock and then let Elon have their proxies.

                            How much of Twitter's stock has Tucker bought?

                            I ain't your Google Mommy.

                            Just trying to save you from doing what Tucker tells you to do but does not do so himself. Consider waiting to see whether Tucker puts his own money where his mouth is.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 14:29 last edited by
                              #131

                              "Elon Musk has also offered to buy CNN+ for twenty-eight bucks."

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 14:31 last edited by
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                                Max Boot opines:

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 14:47 last edited by
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                                  Stock analyst Dan Ives thinks the deal will go through. One caveat he mentions about balancing Musk's time:

                                  Ives also pointed out that there are likely to be a number of questions about financing the deal, regulatory concerns and how Musk would balance his time between Tesla (TSLA), SpaceX and Twitter, but the time for Twitter to accept the deal is "now or never."

                                  I doubt Musk would want to be involved much, beyond understanding the moderation practices, and firing anybody who fashioned those practices after the demands of the pop culture mob.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • G George K
                                    14 Apr 2022, 14:31

                                    Max Boot opines:

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 14:54 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    Max Boot opines:

                                    It's long been clear that an appreciation for free speech is a way in which we self-select politically, often without any intention of that appreciation having any political valence. I think we are long past the point where the buttoned-down mainstreamers, who dislike ideas different from their own, have collected themselves on the left side of the spectrum. Along with the principle-free social opportunists who would align wherever the prevailing winds blow them. Which is to say, most people.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 14:54 last edited by
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                                      I know very little about Mr. Musk or his politics.

                                      But I enjoy this story, I think I could get along with him.

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                                      • C Copper
                                        14 Apr 2022, 14:54

                                        I know very little about Mr. Musk or his politics.

                                        But I enjoy this story, I think I could get along with him.

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                                        Ivorythumper
                                        wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 15:00 last edited by
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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 14 Apr 2022, 15:17 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                          #137

                                          I remember when really rich people bought yachts and Ferrari's, and blew all their money at the casino in Monte Carlo whilst simultaneously being given oral pleasure by supermodels.

                                          This guy builds electric cars and when he wants to have some illicit fun, says "What the heck, let's go crazy and buy a website!"

                                          The modern world sucks. And not in a good way like those supermodels.

                                          (I know, I know, he's been into space like Doctor Evil. He's probably getting pleasured by a supermodel as we speak)

                                          I was only joking

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