Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter
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@Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Why doesn't the stock price go up to $54.20? Is that a signal of the uncertainty that people will sell to Elon?
How many shareholders would need to sell to make the deal go through?
Probably wait ‘til the US markets open before you take the last reported ticker price seriously?
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Taking Musk’s statements at face value, the offer to buy Twitter will come up to $43 Billion. Subtracting the 9%-ish that Musk already owns, Musk still needs to cough up $40 Billion in cash. That’s something like one fifth of Musk’s estimated net worth, most of which are tied up in equities of other companies. Will Musk be willing to actually pay the massive capital gains hit to sell whatever equities in other companies to come up with the $40 Billion to take Twitter public? If he is, what are the effects on the companies whose stocks Musk will sell to raise the cash for his Twitter takeover?
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@Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Taking Musk’s statements at face value, the offer to buy Twitter will come up to $43 Billion. Subtracting the 9%-ish that Musk already owns, Musk still needs to cough up $40 Billion in cash. That’s something like one fifth of Musk’s estimated net worth, most of which are tied up in equities of other companies. Will Musk be willing to actually pay the massive capital gains hit to sell whatever equities in other companies to come up with the $40 Billion to take Twitter public? If he is, what are the effects on the companies whose stocks Musk will sell to raise the cash for his Twitter takeover?
Wouldn't banks happily give him a loan?
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@Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Wouldn't banks happily give him a loan?
The loan will need to be paid back, with interest. The money still needs to come from somewhere. With old school buyout, you’d try to convince the bank that the company you’re buying will generate enough cash to pay back the loan. Twitter is not even profitable right now.
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@Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Wouldn't banks happily give him a loan?
The loan will need to be paid back, with interest. The money still needs to come from somewhere. With old school buyout, you’d try to convince the bank that the company you’re buying will generate enough cash to pay back the loan. Twitter is not even profitable right now.
He could use a part of his stocks in Tesla and SpaceX as collateral, no?
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@Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Wouldn't banks happily give him a loan?
The loan will need to be paid back, with interest. The money still needs to come from somewhere. With old school buyout, you’d try to convince the bank that the company you’re buying will generate enough cash to pay back the loan. Twitter is not even profitable right now.
It’s not profitable because the God King doesn’t own it yet.
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If it costs Musk 10% of his net worth, it would probably not change his life - at all. That's not the case for most of the planet.
What are the actual mechanics of this happening? Who has to approve the sale - board of directors or a vote of all shareholders?
If it's approved, I assume shareholders will be paid out at the price agreed upon, right?
So, if Twitter is not profitable, as @Axtremus says, how much money per year does it lose? Will that bother Musk, or will he just twirl his mustache and say, "I laugh at these losses! Watch what I do next!"?
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@Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Wouldn't banks happily give him a loan?
The loan will need to be paid back, with interest. The money still needs to come from somewhere. With old school buyout, you’d try to convince the bank that the company you’re buying will generate enough cash to pay back the loan. Twitter is not even profitable right now.
He could use a part of his stocks in Tesla and SpaceX as collateral, no?
Gets even more complicated once the other companies are brought into this deal. Yes, the stocks may be made collaterals, but you’d still need cash flow to service the loan. That shifts the argument to cash flow. SpaceX is still in the “hemorrhage money for R&D” phase. Tesla has positive cash flow but does not issue cash dividend. Musk still needs to go through a bunch of mechanisms to take money out of Tesla’s cash flow to service his (hypothetical) Twitter loan.
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@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Klaus I'd think so.
Would that qualify as a "hostile takeover?"
Hostile refers to the relationship with current management. We’ll have to see how they react.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
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Tucker had a suggestion in his monologue last night... People who believe in free speech should buy Twitter stock and then let Elon have their proxies.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Tucker had a suggestion in his monologue last night... People who believe in free speech should buy Twitter stock and then let Elon have their proxies.
How much of Twitter's stock has Tucker bought?
