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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    I suspect it is very true, given our ability to track weather and geologic events.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #6

      I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure it's got nothing to do with the climate being any less dangerous now.

      From Wiki:

      "Epstein is a former adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and a former fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute"

      Wasn't the Ayn Rand Institute once featured in The Simpsons?

      Link to video

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure it's got nothing to do with the climate being any less dangerous now.

        From Wiki:

        "Epstein is a former adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and a former fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute"

        Wasn't the Ayn Rand Institute once featured in The Simpsons?

        Link to video

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #7

        @Doctor-Phibes said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

        I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure it's got nothing to do with the climate being any less dangerous now.

        From Wiki:

        "Epstein is a former adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and a former fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute"

        Argumentum ad Hitlerium?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @Doctor-Phibes said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

          I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure it's got nothing to do with the climate being any less dangerous now.

          From Wiki:

          "Epstein is a former adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and a former fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute"

          Argumentum ad Hitlerium?

          Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor Phibes
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          #8

          @George-K said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

          I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure it's got nothing to do with the climate being any less dangerous now.

          From Wiki:

          "Epstein is a former adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and a former fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute"

          Argumentum ad Hitlerium?

          All I did was point out where he's from. He stated 17 facts, I provided two additional ones.

          I'm a big supporter of nuclear power, and I make much of my living from the fossil fuel industry.

          The Simpson's video was just for fun, because it's hilarious.

          I was only joking

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          • KlausK Offline
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            #9

            I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

            We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

            If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

            The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

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              Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #11

                @Jolly said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                Somebody needs to tell President Bolsonaro.

                I was only joking

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                  We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                  If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                  The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

                  MikM Offline
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                  @Klaus said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                  I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                  We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                  If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                  The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

                  Agreed. We need to get off fossil fuels one way or the other. We just need not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                    MikM Offline
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                    @Jolly said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                    Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                    Then we will have an oxygen crisis. Trust me.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Jolly said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                      Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                      Somebody needs to tell President Bolsonaro.

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                      George K
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                      #14

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                      @Jolly said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                      Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                      Somebody needs to tell President Bolsonaro.

                      Interesting map. This is since 2001. Red areas are tree loss, green are gain.

                      Someone needs to tell the Finns.

                      link

                      Screen Shot 2022-03-30 at 7.10.31 AM copy.jpg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • KlausK Klaus

                        I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                        We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                        If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                        The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        @Klaus said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                        I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                        We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                        If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                        The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

                        One thing I want to add would be geo-thermal. Dropping a pipe a few hundred feet down makes a hell of a difference in heating and cooling… Though I do worry about leeching heat off of the earth.

                        The Brad

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                          Charcoal driven steam engines FTW…

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            @Klaus said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                            I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                            We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                            If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                            The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

                            One thing I want to add would be geo-thermal. Dropping a pipe a few hundred feet down makes a hell of a difference in heating and cooling… Though I do worry about leeching heat off of the earth.

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                            @Klaus said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                            I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                            We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                            If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                            The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

                            One thing I want to add would be geo-thermal. Dropping a pipe a few hundred feet down makes a hell of a difference in heating and cooling… Though I do worry about leeching heat off of the earth.

                            I agree. Isnt it Iceland which get s alot of its energy from geothermal?

                            EDIT: Yes, it is

                            "Over 85% of all houses in Iceland are heated with renewable energy sources, thereof are 66% geothermal. Five major geothermal power plants are active in Iceland. Those five plants also produce a little over 26% of the electricity used in Iceland. The vast majority of the nation’s electricity is generated by hydropower (waterfalls and steam) 73,8% to be exact. Only 0,1% is produced with fossil fuel."

                            (https://adventures.is/information/geothermal-energy-iceland/)

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