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    George K
    wrote on 29 Mar 2022, 22:29 last edited by
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    I have no idea who this guy is.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 29 Mar 2022, 22:39 last edited by
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      Interesting. One would think the world would be absolutely clamoring for nukes.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Copper
        wrote on 29 Mar 2022, 22:47 last edited by Copper
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        Alex Epstein @AlexEpstein

        Feb 2

        There is no low-cost, scalable way, in existence or on the horizon, of capturing CO2.

        Trees, grass, fertilizer, other plants, ocean creatures and plants

        Alex Epstein @AlexEpstein

        Feb 2

        The anti-fossil fuel "green" movement claims to want to lower CO2 emissions at all costs, yet opposes the two most proven, cost-effective ways of lowering CO2 emissions: nuclear energy and hydroelectric energy.

        wind shills

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        • G George K
          29 Mar 2022, 22:29

          I have no idea who this guy is.

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 00:21 last edited by
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          @George-K said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

          I have no idea who this guy is.

          He is the director of the US Nuclear Corp. 55555

          (Actually, I am a fan of nuclear energy and do believe that it should be used more.).

          (Fun fact - Taiwan gets almost 20% of its electricity from nuclear plants)

          One of his quotes:
          "Climate-related disaster deaths have decreased 98% over the last century."

          I kind of doubt this one is true. But I am too lazy to study to get data. LOL In any case, better building materials, better forcasting, etc have helped alot. But the population of the world is also 3x4 times higher now.

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            Mik
            wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 00:34 last edited by
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            I suspect it is very true, given our ability to track weather and geologic events.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 01:02 last edited by
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              I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure it's got nothing to do with the climate being any less dangerous now.

              From Wiki:

              "Epstein is a former adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and a former fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute"

              Wasn't the Ayn Rand Institute once featured in The Simpsons?

              Link to video

              I was only joking

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                30 Mar 2022, 01:02

                I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure it's got nothing to do with the climate being any less dangerous now.

                From Wiki:

                "Epstein is a former adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and a former fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute"

                Wasn't the Ayn Rand Institute once featured in The Simpsons?

                Link to video

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                George K
                wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 02:01 last edited by
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure it's got nothing to do with the climate being any less dangerous now.

                From Wiki:

                "Epstein is a former adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and a former fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute"

                Argumentum ad Hitlerium?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  30 Mar 2022, 02:01

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                  I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure it's got nothing to do with the climate being any less dangerous now.

                  From Wiki:

                  "Epstein is a former adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and a former fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute"

                  Argumentum ad Hitlerium?

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 02:24 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                  I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure it's got nothing to do with the climate being any less dangerous now.

                  From Wiki:

                  "Epstein is a former adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and a former fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute"

                  Argumentum ad Hitlerium?

                  All I did was point out where he's from. He stated 17 facts, I provided two additional ones.

                  I'm a big supporter of nuclear power, and I make much of my living from the fossil fuel industry.

                  The Simpson's video was just for fun, because it's hilarious.

                  I was only joking

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                    Klaus
                    wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 09:06 last edited by Klaus
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                    I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                    We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                    If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                    The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 11:51 last edited by
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                      Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        30 Mar 2022, 11:51

                        Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:01 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                        Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                        Somebody needs to tell President Bolsonaro.

                        I was only joking

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                        • K Klaus
                          30 Mar 2022, 09:06

                          I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                          We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                          If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                          The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:04 last edited by
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                          @Klaus said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                          I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                          We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                          If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                          The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

                          Agreed. We need to get off fossil fuels one way or the other. We just need not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            30 Mar 2022, 11:51

                            Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:05 last edited by
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                            @Jolly said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                            Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                            Then we will have an oxygen crisis. Trust me.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              30 Mar 2022, 12:01

                              @Jolly said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                              Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                              Somebody needs to tell President Bolsonaro.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:11 last edited by
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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                              @Jolly said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                              Want to lower CO2? Plant trees.

                              Somebody needs to tell President Bolsonaro.

                              Interesting map. This is since 2001. Red areas are tree loss, green are gain.

                              Someone needs to tell the Finns.

                              link

                              Screen Shot 2022-03-30 at 7.10.31 AM copy.jpg

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • K Klaus
                                30 Mar 2022, 09:06

                                I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                                We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                                If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                                The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:15 last edited by
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                                @Klaus said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                                I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                                We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                                If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                                The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

                                One thing I want to add would be geo-thermal. Dropping a pipe a few hundred feet down makes a hell of a difference in heating and cooling… Though I do worry about leeching heat off of the earth.

                                The Brad

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:16 last edited by
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                                  Charcoal driven steam engines FTW…

                                  The Brad

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                                    30 Mar 2022, 12:15

                                    @Klaus said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                                    I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                                    We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                                    If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                                    The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

                                    One thing I want to add would be geo-thermal. Dropping a pipe a few hundred feet down makes a hell of a difference in heating and cooling… Though I do worry about leeching heat off of the earth.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 16:53 last edited by
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                                    @Klaus said in 17 surprising facts about energy:

                                    I'm also highly critical of much of the climate change activism, but this guy goes a bit too far IMO (judging from the book blurb).

                                    We are notoriously bad at predicting how much fossil fuel remains, but we know for certain that we consume fossil fuels much more rapidly than they are renewed, and we know that the supply is shrinking rapidly. We can argue about time frames, but there is no doubt in my opinion that we'll have to mainly use other sources of energy in the future.

                                    If I'd be the world's boss, I'd build nuclear plants, solar energy where it is hot (for instance, not in Germany), wind energy where it's windy etc. I'd invest much more money into research on a) battery technology, b) alternative energy sources such as nuclear fusion.

                                    The way to stop everyone from burning coal etc. is to make it cheaper to generate energy without fossil fuels, not by crowd-pleasing sermons.

                                    One thing I want to add would be geo-thermal. Dropping a pipe a few hundred feet down makes a hell of a difference in heating and cooling… Though I do worry about leeching heat off of the earth.

                                    I agree. Isnt it Iceland which get s alot of its energy from geothermal?

                                    EDIT: Yes, it is

                                    "Over 85% of all houses in Iceland are heated with renewable energy sources, thereof are 66% geothermal. Five major geothermal power plants are active in Iceland. Those five plants also produce a little over 26% of the electricity used in Iceland. The vast majority of the nation’s electricity is generated by hydropower (waterfalls and steam) 73,8% to be exact. Only 0,1% is produced with fossil fuel."

                                    (https://adventures.is/information/geothermal-energy-iceland/)

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