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Daylight Saving to be made permanent

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The U.S. Senate on Tuesday passed legislation that would make daylight saving time permanent starting in 2023, ending the twice-annual changing of clocks ..."

    It still awaits action in the House of Representatives. The White House also has not indicate whether Biden supports it.

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #2

      No thank you. I don’t want my son walking to school in the dark several months a year.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • MikM Offline
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        Yeah, I cannot support it either for that very reason. It's a very small inconvenience. If anything, just go back to standard time, not daylight.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          I really don’t get the DST hate.

          Yes it’s a minor inconvenience changing the few remaining clocks that don’t change automatically,
          But it’s nice the boy has daylight to walk to school in winter and I love my summer evenings grilling at 8:30pm.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I really don’t get the DST hate.

            Yes it’s a minor inconvenience changing the few remaining clocks that don’t change automatically,
            But it’s nice the boy has daylight to walk to school in winter and I love my summer evenings grilling at 8:30pm.

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            @jon-nyc said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:

            I really don’t get the DST hate.

            Yes it’s a minor inconvenience changing the few remaining clocks that don’t change automatically,
            But it’s nice the boy has daylight to walk to school in winter and I love my summer evenings grilling at 8:30pm.

            Lucas recently had to give an argument against DST for his economics class and found some pretty compelling reasons to end it. I’ll see if ican get him to send me a recap.

            The Brad

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #6

              I’ve seen credible arguments that it doesn’t save energy, and that there are a handful of excess deaths after a time change.

              But let’s be honest - neither of those are the reasons the dST haters are hating.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                I’ve seen credible arguments that it doesn’t save energy, and that there are a handful of excess deaths after a time change.

                But let’s be honest - neither of those are the reasons the dST haters are hating.

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                @jon-nyc said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:

                I’ve seen credible arguments that it doesn’t save energy, and that there are a handful of excess deaths after a time change.

                But let’s be honest - neither of those are the reasons the dST haters are hating.

                Oh, I agree and generally like it for exactly the same reasons you do…

                The Brad

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #8

                  I don’t think those people give much thought to an 8:30 am sunrise in December (if you make DST permanent) or darker summer evenings if you eliminate it.

                  I think they literally are just unhappy about the act of changing the clock.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #9

                    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

                    Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.

                    The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:

                    • United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
                    • Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
                    • Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
                    • Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

                      Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.

                      The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:

                      • United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
                      • Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
                      • Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
                      • Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.
                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      @George-K said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:

                      https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

                      Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.

                      • Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.

                      Ha! Congress is working as Russian Tools and agitators! Treason!

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @George-K said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:

                        https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

                        Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.

                        • Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.

                        Ha! Congress is working as Russian Tools and agitators! Treason!

                        George KG Offline
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:

                        Ha! Congress is working as Russian Tools and agitators! Treason!

                        (Costco) Scotch all over my keyboard!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

                          Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.

                          The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:

                          • United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
                          • Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
                          • Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
                          • Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.
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                          jon-nyc
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                          @George-K said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:

                          https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

                          Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.

                          The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:

                          • United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
                          • Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
                          • Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
                          • Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.

                          They forgot Indiana. Most of which is always EST

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            I don’t think those people give much thought to an 8:30 am sunrise in December (if you make DST permanent) or darker summer evenings if you eliminate it.

                            I think they literally are just unhappy about the act of changing the clock.

                            CopperC Offline
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                            #13

                            @jon-nyc said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:

                            I don’t think those people give much thought to an 8:30 am sunrise in December (if you make DST permanent) or darker summer evenings if you eliminate it.

                            I think they literally are just unhappy about the act of changing the clock.

                            Yes.

                            Changing the clocks makes a lot of sense.

                            Somehow, hating clock changing has become a virtue signal.

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
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                              Oh, Hell no.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Here it is under provincial jurisdiction. We had a referendum last fall whether to stay with changing the clocks twice a year or permanent DST. The choice to remain in standard time was not offered by the Kenney regime. Thankfully reason prevailed and permanent DST was rejected.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Don't be surprised if it fails the House. It could be a way to build some good-guy cred for the voters wanting it permanent without Congress to having to actually do anything.

                                  'Course, this is the current day House, so . . .

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @George-K said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:

                                    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

                                    Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.

                                    The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:

                                    • United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
                                    • Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
                                    • Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
                                    • Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.

                                    They forgot Indiana. Most of which is always EST

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:

                                    @George-K said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:

                                    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

                                    Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.

                                    The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:

                                    • United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
                                    • Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
                                    • Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
                                    • Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.

                                    They forgot Indiana. Most of which is always EST

                                    Not anymore. They stopped that quite a few years ago.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • 89th8 Online
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                                      I’m far too lazy today understand. I think I’d be fine without changing clocks regardless of what time we select.

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                                      • markM Offline
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                                        It's a non-issue for me.

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          Your tax dollars at shirk. Runaway inflation, out of control spending, pandemic, war in Europe and this is what the Senate is spending time on.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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