Daylight Saving to be made permanent
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wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 20:56 last edited by jon-nyc
I’ve seen credible arguments that it doesn’t save energy, and that there are a handful of excess deaths after a time change.
But let’s be honest - neither of those are the reasons the dST haters are hating.
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I’ve seen credible arguments that it doesn’t save energy, and that there are a handful of excess deaths after a time change.
But let’s be honest - neither of those are the reasons the dST haters are hating.
wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 21:02 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
I’ve seen credible arguments that it doesn’t save energy, and that there are a handful of excess deaths after a time change.
But let’s be honest - neither of those are the reasons the dST haters are hating.
Oh, I agree and generally like it for exactly the same reasons you do…
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wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 21:18 last edited by
I don’t think those people give much thought to an 8:30 am sunrise in December (if you make DST permanent) or darker summer evenings if you eliminate it.
I think they literally are just unhappy about the act of changing the clock.
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wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 21:24 last edited by George K
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.
The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:
- United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
- Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
- Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
- Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.
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https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.
The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:
- United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
- Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
- Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
- Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.
wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 21:27 last edited by@George-K said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.
- Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.
Ha! Congress is working as Russian Tools and agitators! Treason!
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@George-K said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.
- Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.
Ha! Congress is working as Russian Tools and agitators! Treason!
wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 21:29 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
Ha! Congress is working as Russian Tools and agitators! Treason!
(Costco) Scotch all over my keyboard!
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https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.
The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:
- United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
- Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
- Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
- Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.
wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 21:31 last edited by@George-K said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.
The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:
- United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
- Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
- Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
- Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.
They forgot Indiana. Most of which is always EST
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I don’t think those people give much thought to an 8:30 am sunrise in December (if you make DST permanent) or darker summer evenings if you eliminate it.
I think they literally are just unhappy about the act of changing the clock.
wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 21:53 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
I don’t think those people give much thought to an 8:30 am sunrise in December (if you make DST permanent) or darker summer evenings if you eliminate it.
I think they literally are just unhappy about the act of changing the clock.
Yes.
Changing the clocks makes a lot of sense.
Somehow, hating clock changing has become a virtue signal.
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wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 22:10 last edited by
Oh, Hell no.
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G George K referenced this topic on 15 Mar 2022, 22:24
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wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 00:24 last edited by
Here it is under provincial jurisdiction. We had a referendum last fall whether to stay with changing the clocks twice a year or permanent DST. The choice to remain in standard time was not offered by the Kenney regime. Thankfully reason prevailed and permanent DST was rejected.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 02:21 last edited by Catseye3
Don't be surprised if it fails the House. It could be a way to build some good-guy cred for the voters wanting it permanent without Congress to having to actually do anything.
'Course, this is the current day House, so . . .
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@George-K said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.
The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:
- United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
- Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
- Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
- Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.
They forgot Indiana. Most of which is always EST
wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 02:36 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
@George-K said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
Most of the world's countries do not use DST, but it is common in Europe and North America.
The United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and many other countries have DST. These countries also have regions that do not have DST:
- United States: most of Arizona and Hawaii
- Australia: Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory
- Canada: Saskatchewan except for a few locations with the border with Alberta and Manitoba, and the Yukon Territory
- Iceland, Russia, Belarus, and some parts of Ukraine are countries in Europe without DST.
They forgot Indiana. Most of which is always EST
Not anymore. They stopped that quite a few years ago.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 03:06 last edited by
I’m far too lazy today understand. I think I’d be fine without changing clocks regardless of what time we select.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 03:50 last edited by
It's a non-issue for me.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 11:34 last edited by
Your tax dollars at shirk. Runaway inflation, out of control spending, pandemic, war in Europe and this is what the Senate is spending time on.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 12:07 last edited by
Which reminds me of what I was thinking about last night. Why now did they even hold the vote? Why now? It's like, "Oh, hey, it's DST! Let's vote on it! Let's
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Your tax dollars at shirk. Runaway inflation, out of control spending, pandemic, war in Europe and this is what the Senate is spending time on.
wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 12:18 last edited by@Mik said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
Your tax dollars at shirk. Runaway inflation, out of control spending, pandemic, war in Europe and this is what the Senate is spending time on.
They've spent their working lives learning how to make idiots happy, and now they're applying this knowledge.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 21:47 last edited by
It's been tried before:
Congress had voted on December 14, 1973, to put the US on daylight saving time for two years. President Nixon signed the bill the next day. The US had gone to permanent daylight saving time before, during World War II. Then, too, the measure was enacted to save fuel. Permanent DST wasn’t close to the wackiest idea about time floating around—Paul Mullinax, a geographer who worked at the Pentagon, came up with the idea of putting the continental US on a single time zone. “USA Time” would apply from Bangor to Barstow, eliminate jet lag, and standardize TV schedules. His idea even got traction in Congress, via a bill from US Representative Patsy Mink of Hawaii. “The human being is a very adaptive animal,” he said. “There is no reason we have to be a slave to the sun.”
And yet the early-morning darkness quickly proved dangerous for children: A 6-year-old Alexandria girl was struck by a car on her way to Polk Elementary School on January 7; the accident broke her leg. Two Prince George’s County students were hurt in February. In the weeks after the change, eight Florida kids were killed in traffic accidents. Florida’s governor, Reubin Askew, asked for Congress to repeal the measure. “It’s time to recognize that we may well have made a mistake,” US Senator Dick Clark of Iowa said during a speech in Congress on January 28, 1974. In the Washington area, some schools delayed their start times until the sun caught up with the clock.
The factual picture was a bit more complicated. The National Safety Council reported in February that pre-sunrise fatalities had risen to 20 from 18 the year before. In July, Roger Sant, then an assistant administrator-designate for the Federal Energy Administration, wrote a letter to the Post that noted a 1 percent energy saving achieved by going to DST equated to 20,000-30,000 tons of coal not being burned each day. Further, he wrote, accidents had fallen in the afternoons.
By August, though, as the Watergate scandal caused the Nixon administration to crumble, the country was ready to move on from its clock experiments. While 79 percent of Americans approved of the change in December 1973, approval had dropped to 42 percent three months later, the New York Times reported. Seven days after President Nixon resigned, US Senator Bob Dole of Kansas introduced an amendment in August that would end the DST experiment. It passed. A similar bill passed the House. In late September, the full Congress passed a bill that would restore standard time on October 27. President Ford signed it on October 5. Energy savings, a House panel noted, “must be balanced against a majority of the public’s distaste for the observance of Daylight Saving Time.”
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wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 23:04 last edited by
Well Jimmy Kimmel and his entire audience cheered this, which pretty much confirms my opinion
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Well Jimmy Kimmel and his entire audience cheered this, which pretty much confirms my opinion
wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 23:12 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Daylight Saving to be made permanent:
Well Jimmy Kimmel and his entire audience cheered this, which pretty much confirms my opinion
Which opinion might that be?
- Kimmel is a flack
- The audience is stupid.
- What the FUCK happened to late-night comedy?
There are more, of course.