Light 'em up
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 12:37 last edited by
A lot of cops are former military.
The phrase means "fire".
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 12:53 last edited by
Yes. Open fire. At people that were peacefully and legally sitting on their porch. You see, the curfew allowed for these people to be outside as long as they were legally on private residential property, which these people were.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 13:06 last edited by
@Jolly said in Light 'em up:
A lot of cops are former military.
The phrase means "fire".
I know what it means. That wasn't really the point of the post.
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Yes. Open fire. At people that were peacefully and legally sitting on their porch. You see, the curfew allowed for these people to be outside as long as they were legally on private residential property, which these people were.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 13:08 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Light 'em up:
Yes. Open fire. At people that were peacefully and legally sitting on their porch. You see, the curfew allowed for these people to be outside as long as they were legally on private residential property, which these people were.
It's hard to imagine why some people feel alienated from the police after seeing this level of hands-on community policing.
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Yes. Open fire. At people that were peacefully and legally sitting on their porch. You see, the curfew allowed for these people to be outside as long as they were legally on private residential property, which these people were.
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When I first saw that video a few days ago, I thought they were breaking the rules by being outside and I didn't have too much of a problem with the response. But if they were allowed to be on their property/porch, then yes this is obviously egregious!
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@LuFins-Dad said in Light 'em up:
Yes. Open fire. At people that were peacefully and legally sitting on their porch. You see, the curfew allowed for these people to be outside as long as they were legally on private residential property, which these people were.
It's hard to imagine why some people feel alienated from the police after seeing this level of hands-on community policing.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:00 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Light 'em up:
@LuFins-Dad said in Light 'em up:
Yes. Open fire. At people that were peacefully and legally sitting on their porch. You see, the curfew allowed for these people to be outside as long as they were legally on private residential property, which these people were.
It's hard to imagine why some people feel alienated from the police after seeing this level of hands-on community policing.
But that's not the story I like to hear in my 'Murrican echo chamber so here, let me either contrive some nonsense about that story being untrue, or far easier, I'll just cherry-pick some articles of my own about Antifa so that I can ignore what you just told me.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:04 last edited by
Aqua, are you saying that Antifa has some redeeming quality about it worth defending them?
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:09 last edited by
In defense of the police, it would appear they anticipated violence and wanted the porch sitters inside for their safety. Still a bad decision, but with, I think, good motivation.
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In defense of the police, it would appear they anticipated violence and wanted the porch sitters inside for their safety. Still a bad decision, but with, I think, good motivation.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:16 last edited by@Mik said in Light 'em up:
In defense of the police, it would appear they anticipated violence and wanted the porch sitters inside for their safety. Still a bad decision, but with, I think, good motivation.
That's true. And some cops just get keyed up and do something like punch a journalist in the face, or shoot a 16-year-old. Others are straightup kneeling with the protesters and handing out water bottles. And on the other side, just about everyone involved doesn't want to torch or loot local businesses. There's a group of medical folks involved in the DC stuff who are giving first aid to cops and protesters alike, but that's not what makes the news. It's a very complicated situation.
What I'm completely tired of is armchair jackasses saying it isn't complicated. Finding news stories that support what they already want to believe anyway. Fucking shit get a media education why don't you.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:40 last edited by
By the way, this business is starting to get reported too.
Sorry for the crappy still. This is a line of cops in Riverside and the couple on the end smashed in that car's windows as they passed. They did it to the ones behind them, too.
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When I first saw that video a few days ago, I thought they were breaking the rules by being outside and I didn't have too much of a problem with the response. But if they were allowed to be on their property/porch, then yes this is obviously egregious!
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:41 last edited by@89th said in Light 'em up:
When I first saw that video a few days ago, I thought they were breaking the rules by being outside and I didn't have too much of a problem with the response. But if they were allowed to be on their property/porch, then yes this is obviously egregious!
Think about this a bit ... how can you generally not be allowed to be on your own property?
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By the way, this business is starting to get reported too.
Sorry for the crappy still. This is a line of cops in Riverside and the couple on the end smashed in that car's windows as they passed. They did it to the ones behind them, too.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:42 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Light 'em up:
By the way, this business is starting to get reported too.
Sorry for the crappy still. This is a line of cops in Riverside and the couple on the end smashed in that car's windows as they passed. They did it to the ones behind them, too.
Not sure I understand ... you mean the cops are the ones who smashed the cars' windows?
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:42 last edited by
Here in Cincinnati the vast majority are peaceful and do not resist the police. What is telling is they are also majority white kids. Now, whether they understand the complexities of race relations in this country or are just loving having something to act up about I cannot say.
But again, the stupid thing here is that the country is pretty united in condemnation of the Gregory Floyd killing. They are squandering an opportunity for a rational discussion on where to go from here.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:44 last edited by
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Here in Cincinnati the vast majority are peaceful and do not resist the police. What is telling is they are also majority white kids. Now, whether they understand the complexities of race relations in this country or are just loving having something to act up about I cannot say.
But again, the stupid thing here is that the country is pretty united in condemnation of the Gregory Floyd killing. They are squandering an opportunity for a rational discussion on where to go from here.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:45 last edited by@Mik said in Light 'em up:
But again, the stupid thing here is that the country is pretty united in condemnation of the Gregory Floyd killing. They are squandering an opportunity for a rational discussion on where to go from here.
Oh yeah. We're waaaaayyyyy past that, Jerry.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Light 'em up:
By the way, this business is starting to get reported too.
Sorry for the crappy still. This is a line of cops in Riverside and the couple on the end smashed in that car's windows as they passed. They did it to the ones behind them, too.
Not sure I understand ... you mean the cops are the ones who smashed the cars' windows?
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 14:46 last edited by@Axtremus said in Light 'em up:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Light 'em up:
By the way, this business is starting to get reported too.
Sorry for the crappy still. This is a line of cops in Riverside and the couple on the end smashed in that car's windows as they passed. They did it to the ones behind them, too.
Not sure I understand ... you mean the cops are the ones who smashed the cars' windows?
Yes. The video makes it obvious but links are hard to share on social.
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@Mik said in Light 'em up:
In defense of the police, it would appear they anticipated violence and wanted the porch sitters inside for their safety. Still a bad decision, but with, I think, good motivation.
That's true. And some cops just get keyed up and do something like punch a journalist in the face, or shoot a 16-year-old. Others are straightup kneeling with the protesters and handing out water bottles. And on the other side, just about everyone involved doesn't want to torch or loot local businesses. There's a group of medical folks involved in the DC stuff who are giving first aid to cops and protesters alike, but that's not what makes the news. It's a very complicated situation.
What I'm completely tired of is armchair jackasses saying it isn't complicated. Finding news stories that support what they already want to believe anyway. Fucking shit get a media education why don't you.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 15:24 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Light 'em up:
What I'm completely tired of is armchair jackasses saying it isn't complicated. Finding news stories that support what they already want to believe anyway. Fucking shit get a media education why don't you.
I would say the first and most important example of everybody losing sight of how complicated the situation is, is when we get outraged about single incidents of police misbehavior happening in a country of 300 million. How when we see those things, we know immediately that the whole system is diseased from the ground up and we need to rebuild it. Like in a normal and sane system, that stuff would simply never happen.