Light 'em up
-
@Jolly For younger demographics - the narrative is shaped much more strongly by social media than the "media"
I haven't tuned into mainstream media once to get my news on this. (Though I have read a few articles here and there)
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 17:47 last edited by@xenon said in Light 'em up:
@Jolly For younger demographics - the narrative is shaped much more strongly by social media than the "media"
I haven't tuned into mainstream media once to get my news on this. (Though I have read a few articles here and there)
Then they're ignorant idiots. Social media is even more easily manipulated than MSM. I suppose they believe everything they read on Facebook or Reddit...
Nah, a whole lot of this crap is nothing more than a lot of bored idiots with too much time on their hands and too much money in their pockets. You want to protest? Fine. Organize your march, get your permit and preach to the rooftops. Make your voice heard.
But understand...The President has already called for justice. The cop has already been charged with murder. The system is working.
Anything past that, especially in light of a conviction when it happens, is just horseshit.
-
@Aqua-Letifer said in Light 'em up:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Light 'em up:
@LuFins-Dad said in Light 'em up:
Yes. Open fire. At people that were peacefully and legally sitting on their porch. You see, the curfew allowed for these people to be outside as long as they were legally on private residential property, which these people were.
It's hard to imagine why some people feel alienated from the police after seeing this level of hands-on community policing.
But that's not the story I like to hear in my 'Murrican echo chamber so here, let me either contrive some nonsense about that story being untrue, or far easier, I'll just cherry-pick some articles of my own about Antifa so that I can ignore what you just told me.
And let us cherry-pick for the other side.
Gimmee a break.
One of the cops from my nephew's shift was stabbed chasing idiot protesters this week. If you didn't live in Jacksonville, you'd never know it happened.
The media shapes the narrative. I think the media helped create the violence.
BTW, this part of 'Murica is pretty peaceful and quiet...
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 17:59 last edited by@Jolly said in Light 'em up:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Light 'em up:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Light 'em up:
@LuFins-Dad said in Light 'em up:
Yes. Open fire. At people that were peacefully and legally sitting on their porch. You see, the curfew allowed for these people to be outside as long as they were legally on private residential property, which these people were.
It's hard to imagine why some people feel alienated from the police after seeing this level of hands-on community policing.
But that's not the story I like to hear in my 'Murrican echo chamber so here, let me either contrive some nonsense about that story being untrue, or far easier, I'll just cherry-pick some articles of my own about Antifa so that I can ignore what you just told me.
And let us cherry-pick for the other side.
Gimmee a break.
You first. The only reason I posted what I did was because you're trying to paint this thing as "all protesters are thugs." I've seen plenty of footage of assholes setting cars on fire too, and were I a WTF member that's what I'd be posting. But the problem here at TNCR is the reverse. So yeah, I chose to be just as biased as you.
-
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 18:01 last edited by
Whoopee!
-
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 18:04 last edited by
The cost/benefit just isn't here.
-
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 18:06 last edited by
I picked two bushels of beans this morning. I'm resting right now, before I check my generator, since we've got a storm brewing in the Gulf.
In my world, I'm not real concerned with much past staying well and taking care of my garden. Assholes come and assholes go. You can agree with me or not.
Makes no difference in my world view.
-
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 19:17 last edited by
It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.
There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.
(I have no answers of course. 5555)
-
It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.
There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.
(I have no answers of course. 5555)
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 19:36 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Light 'em up:
It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.
There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.
(I have no answers of course. 5555)
The mob mentality going on here on TNCR and elsewhere is, "I sympathize with this side over here, so I'm going to justify or brush off the bad behavior of those group members. It's not actually a problem because I side with them. But I'm also going to demonize everyone on the other side with some cherry-picked incidents, because they're all wrong anyway and so they've all got to be bad."
Here it seems there are a lot of folks doing that with the police. Elsewhere, though, it's giving a pass to the protesters lighting cars and buildings on fire.
-
@taiwan_girl said in Light 'em up:
It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.
There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.
(I have no answers of course. 5555)
The mob mentality going on here on TNCR and elsewhere is, "I sympathize with this side over here, so I'm going to justify or brush off the bad behavior of those group members. It's not actually a problem because I side with them. But I'm also going to demonize everyone on the other side with some cherry-picked incidents, because they're all wrong anyway and so they've all got to be bad."
Here it seems there are a lot of folks doing that with the police. Elsewhere, though, it's giving a pass to the protesters lighting cars and buildings on fire.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 20:02 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer Agree.
-
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 20:03 last edited by
Both positions are wrong.
-
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 20:06 last edited by
@Mik said in Light 'em up:
Both positions are wrong.
Indeed. This isn't Evergreen. It's very complicated. What's amazing to me is that most police officers and most protesters are still after all this time working together to keep things civil. I don't know how much longer that's going to last, though. The events in DC yesterday sure didn't help the situation.
-
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 20:11 last edited by
I like to think my reaction to cops breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so is consistent with my reactions to anybody else breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so. I recognize it happened, am heartened that the system is punishing the law breakers as intended, and I spend zero effort hand wringing about how I can possibly live in a society where this sort of thing could possibly happen.
If anybody feeling more feelings than that has a plan to reduce this sort of lawless behavior on the part of cops, I would not need to participate in a feeling of feels roll call to support such a plan.
-
@taiwan_girl said in Light 'em up:
It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.
There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.
(I have no answers of course. 5555)
The mob mentality going on here on TNCR and elsewhere is, "I sympathize with this side over here, so I'm going to justify or brush off the bad behavior of those group members. It's not actually a problem because I side with them. But I'm also going to demonize everyone on the other side with some cherry-picked incidents, because they're all wrong anyway and so they've all got to be bad."
Here it seems there are a lot of folks doing that with the police. Elsewhere, though, it's giving a pass to the protesters lighting cars and buildings on fire.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 20:15 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Light 'em up:
@taiwan_girl said in Light 'em up:
It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.
There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.
(I have no answers of course. 5555)
The mob mentality going on here on TNCR and elsewhere is, "I sympathize with this side over here, so I'm going to justify or brush off the bad behavior of those group members. It's not actually a problem because I side with them. But I'm also going to demonize everyone on the other side with some cherry-picked incidents, because they're all wrong anyway and so they've all got to be bad."
Here it seems there are a lot of folks doing that with the police. Elsewhere, though, it's giving a pass to the protesters lighting cars and buildings on fire.
Feeling superior, now?
I haven't seen anybody here defending the cop that killed Floyd, especially after the cop was charged. Didn't see anybody up in arms over the right of people to peacefully assemble and protest.
This has moved on from that, now. There is no both sides, not since buildings started burning and stores were being looted. At that point, if you're in the street and bad things are happening, I don't care what happens to you, whether you're a pyromaniacal anarchist or you're leading a prayer meeting.
-
@Aqua-Letifer said in Light 'em up:
@taiwan_girl said in Light 'em up:
It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.
There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.
(I have no answers of course. 5555)
The mob mentality going on here on TNCR and elsewhere is, "I sympathize with this side over here, so I'm going to justify or brush off the bad behavior of those group members. It's not actually a problem because I side with them. But I'm also going to demonize everyone on the other side with some cherry-picked incidents, because they're all wrong anyway and so they've all got to be bad."
Here it seems there are a lot of folks doing that with the police. Elsewhere, though, it's giving a pass to the protesters lighting cars and buildings on fire.
Feeling superior, now?
I haven't seen anybody here defending the cop that killed Floyd, especially after the cop was charged. Didn't see anybody up in arms over the right of people to peacefully assemble and protest.
This has moved on from that, now. There is no both sides, not since buildings started burning and stores were being looted. At that point, if you're in the street and bad things are happening, I don't care what happens to you, whether you're a pyromaniacal anarchist or you're leading a prayer meeting.
wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 01:23 last edited by@Jolly said in Light 'em up:
Feeling superior, now?
Nope. I'm fully aware that the less personally involved in this, the easier it is to perform armchair analysis. But I've friends who are stuck living through this downtown, my cousin's a trooper in the area, and there's a growing amount of bullshit going on.
-
I like to think my reaction to cops breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so is consistent with my reactions to anybody else breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so. I recognize it happened, am heartened that the system is punishing the law breakers as intended, and I spend zero effort hand wringing about how I can possibly live in a society where this sort of thing could possibly happen.
If anybody feeling more feelings than that has a plan to reduce this sort of lawless behavior on the part of cops, I would not need to participate in a feeling of feels roll call to support such a plan.
wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 01:49 last edited by@Horace said in Light 'em up:
I like to think my reaction to cops breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so is consistent with my reactions to anybody else breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so. I recognize it happened, am heartened that the system is punishing the law breakers as intended, and I spend zero effort hand wringing about how I can possibly live in a society where this sort of thing could possibly happen.
If anybody feeling more feelings than that has a plan to reduce this sort of lawless behavior on the part of cops, I would not need to participate in a feeling of feels roll call to support such a plan.
I agree with you. I am concerned however that all the damage, the incidental deaths and Covid spread are somehow justified though in the minds of many.
-
wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 02:36 last edited by
I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.
-
I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.
wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 03:11 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Light 'em up:
I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.
:spit:
-
I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.
wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 03:20 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Light 'em up:
I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.
Because you are not thinking about the hangover when you are drunk.
-
I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.
wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 15:24 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Light 'em up:
I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.
The flu will go away.
The riots, it doesn't look like it