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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 18:04 last edited by
    #42

    The cost/benefit just isn't here.

    Please love yourself.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 18:06 last edited by
      #43

      I picked two bushels of beans this morning. I'm resting right now, before I check my generator, since we've got a storm brewing in the Gulf.

      In my world, I'm not real concerned with much past staying well and taking care of my garden. Assholes come and assholes go. You can agree with me or not.

      Makes no difference in my world view.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 19:17 last edited by
        #44

        It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.

        There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.

        (I have no answers of course. 5555)

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        • T taiwan_girl
          2 Jun 2020, 19:17

          It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.

          There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.

          (I have no answers of course. 5555)

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 19:36 last edited by
          #45

          @taiwan_girl said in Light 'em up:

          It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.

          There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.

          (I have no answers of course. 5555)

          The mob mentality going on here on TNCR and elsewhere is, "I sympathize with this side over here, so I'm going to justify or brush off the bad behavior of those group members. It's not actually a problem because I side with them. But I'm also going to demonize everyone on the other side with some cherry-picked incidents, because they're all wrong anyway and so they've all got to be bad."

          Here it seems there are a lot of folks doing that with the police. Elsewhere, though, it's giving a pass to the protesters lighting cars and buildings on fire.

          Please love yourself.

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          • A Aqua Letifer
            2 Jun 2020, 19:36

            @taiwan_girl said in Light 'em up:

            It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.

            There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.

            (I have no answers of course. 5555)

            The mob mentality going on here on TNCR and elsewhere is, "I sympathize with this side over here, so I'm going to justify or brush off the bad behavior of those group members. It's not actually a problem because I side with them. But I'm also going to demonize everyone on the other side with some cherry-picked incidents, because they're all wrong anyway and so they've all got to be bad."

            Here it seems there are a lot of folks doing that with the police. Elsewhere, though, it's giving a pass to the protesters lighting cars and buildings on fire.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 20:02 last edited by
            #46

            @Aqua-Letifer Agree.

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              Mik
              wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 20:03 last edited by
              #47

              Both positions are wrong.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • M Mik
                2 Jun 2020, 20:03

                Both positions are wrong.

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 20:06 last edited by
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                @Mik said in Light 'em up:

                Both positions are wrong.

                Indeed. This isn't Evergreen. It's very complicated. What's amazing to me is that most police officers and most protesters are still after all this time working together to keep things civil. I don't know how much longer that's going to last, though. The events in DC yesterday sure didn't help the situation.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 20:11 last edited by
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                  I like to think my reaction to cops breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so is consistent with my reactions to anybody else breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so. I recognize it happened, am heartened that the system is punishing the law breakers as intended, and I spend zero effort hand wringing about how I can possibly live in a society where this sort of thing could possibly happen.

                  If anybody feeling more feelings than that has a plan to reduce this sort of lawless behavior on the part of cops, I would not need to participate in a feeling of feels roll call to support such a plan.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • A Aqua Letifer
                    2 Jun 2020, 19:36

                    @taiwan_girl said in Light 'em up:

                    It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.

                    There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.

                    (I have no answers of course. 5555)

                    The mob mentality going on here on TNCR and elsewhere is, "I sympathize with this side over here, so I'm going to justify or brush off the bad behavior of those group members. It's not actually a problem because I side with them. But I'm also going to demonize everyone on the other side with some cherry-picked incidents, because they're all wrong anyway and so they've all got to be bad."

                    Here it seems there are a lot of folks doing that with the police. Elsewhere, though, it's giving a pass to the protesters lighting cars and buildings on fire.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 20:15 last edited by
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Light 'em up:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Light 'em up:

                    It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.

                    There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.

                    (I have no answers of course. 5555)

                    The mob mentality going on here on TNCR and elsewhere is, "I sympathize with this side over here, so I'm going to justify or brush off the bad behavior of those group members. It's not actually a problem because I side with them. But I'm also going to demonize everyone on the other side with some cherry-picked incidents, because they're all wrong anyway and so they've all got to be bad."

                    Here it seems there are a lot of folks doing that with the police. Elsewhere, though, it's giving a pass to the protesters lighting cars and buildings on fire.

                    Feeling superior, now?

                    I haven't seen anybody here defending the cop that killed Floyd, especially after the cop was charged. Didn't see anybody up in arms over the right of people to peacefully assemble and protest.

                    This has moved on from that, now. There is no both sides, not since buildings started burning and stores were being looted. At that point, if you're in the street and bad things are happening, I don't care what happens to you, whether you're a pyromaniacal anarchist or you're leading a prayer meeting.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      2 Jun 2020, 20:15

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Light 'em up:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Light 'em up:

                      It is just mob mentality for both the bad things that the rioters are doing and the bad things that the police are doing. Invidiually, a person who throws a firebomb at police or a police man who smashes a car with people inside are probably okay people.

                      There have been hundreds (thousands?) of articles written about mob mentality and how it effects people.

                      (I have no answers of course. 5555)

                      The mob mentality going on here on TNCR and elsewhere is, "I sympathize with this side over here, so I'm going to justify or brush off the bad behavior of those group members. It's not actually a problem because I side with them. But I'm also going to demonize everyone on the other side with some cherry-picked incidents, because they're all wrong anyway and so they've all got to be bad."

                      Here it seems there are a lot of folks doing that with the police. Elsewhere, though, it's giving a pass to the protesters lighting cars and buildings on fire.

                      Feeling superior, now?

                      I haven't seen anybody here defending the cop that killed Floyd, especially after the cop was charged. Didn't see anybody up in arms over the right of people to peacefully assemble and protest.

                      This has moved on from that, now. There is no both sides, not since buildings started burning and stores were being looted. At that point, if you're in the street and bad things are happening, I don't care what happens to you, whether you're a pyromaniacal anarchist or you're leading a prayer meeting.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 01:23 last edited by
                      #51

                      @Jolly said in Light 'em up:

                      Feeling superior, now?

                      Nope. I'm fully aware that the less personally involved in this, the easier it is to perform armchair analysis. But I've friends who are stuck living through this downtown, my cousin's a trooper in the area, and there's a growing amount of bullshit going on.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • H Horace
                        2 Jun 2020, 20:11

                        I like to think my reaction to cops breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so is consistent with my reactions to anybody else breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so. I recognize it happened, am heartened that the system is punishing the law breakers as intended, and I spend zero effort hand wringing about how I can possibly live in a society where this sort of thing could possibly happen.

                        If anybody feeling more feelings than that has a plan to reduce this sort of lawless behavior on the part of cops, I would not need to participate in a feeling of feels roll call to support such a plan.

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                        Loki
                        wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 01:49 last edited by
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                        @Horace said in Light 'em up:

                        I like to think my reaction to cops breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so is consistent with my reactions to anybody else breaking the law and hurting others in the course of doing so. I recognize it happened, am heartened that the system is punishing the law breakers as intended, and I spend zero effort hand wringing about how I can possibly live in a society where this sort of thing could possibly happen.

                        If anybody feeling more feelings than that has a plan to reduce this sort of lawless behavior on the part of cops, I would not need to participate in a feeling of feels roll call to support such a plan.

                        I agree with you. I am concerned however that all the damage, the incidental deaths and Covid spread are somehow justified though in the minds of many.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 02:36 last edited by
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                          I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.

                          I was only joking

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            3 Jun 2020, 02:36

                            I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 03:11 last edited by
                            #54

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Light 'em up:

                            I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.

                            :spit:

                            The Brad

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                              3 Jun 2020, 02:36

                              I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 03:20 last edited by
                              #55

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Light 'em up:

                              I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.

                              Because you are not thinking about the hangover when you are drunk.

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                3 Jun 2020, 02:36

                                I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 3 Jun 2020, 15:24 last edited by
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Light 'em up:

                                I'm a little surprised nobody has compared the seriousness of the riots to the seasonal flu.

                                The flu will go away.

                                The riots, it doesn't look like it

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