'Choot 'em!
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 23:48 last edited by
Well, they can't say the man didn't warn them...
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 23:59 last edited by
Yeah that helps matters. Let's publicly say an obvious thing in the most antagonistic way possible.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:05 last edited by
I think the man said exactly what he meant and I concur. That community is just outside of Tampa. If the folks want to peacefully protest, they are welcome. If they want to loot and burn, they can die spitting blood.
That's a nice, clear cut binary choice.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:07 last edited by
Besudes, it's all fun and games, until you die on the sidewalk...
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I think the man said exactly what he meant and I concur. That community is just outside of Tampa. If the folks want to peacefully protest, they are welcome. If they want to loot and burn, they can die spitting blood.
That's a nice, clear cut binary choice.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:14 last edited by@Jolly said in 'Choot 'em!:
I think the man said exactly what he meant and I concur. That community is just outside of Tampa. If the folks want to peacefully protest, they are welcome. If they want to loot and burn, they can die spitting blood.
That's a nice, clear cut binary choice.
You seem to not understand that a police officer harping so strongly on shooting people is not likely going to help a week-long, nationwide riot that started after a police officer killed somebody. It's absolutely fucking stupid and beyond tone-deaf. Let them figure it out for themselves, you don't say shit like that if you want to keep things civil. It's almost as bad as ACAB.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:29 last edited by
I get that things could tip the other way in many places, but I don't think threats from the police is helpful right now. Most of the protesters want to be heard, not burn things. Best not make radicals out of some of them.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:34 last edited by
No one is talking about the protesters. Antifa isn't protesting, they have no stated goal other than to create chaos. Shoot the sons of bitches.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:37 last edited by
Antifa are shitbag opportunists that need larger crowds to hide in before they start their rampages. I don't think there's serious risk of them moving this into the 'burbs. Unless tensions escalate. That would surely make it easier for them.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:39 last edited by
Moving into the burbs would be a violent terrorist incursion. We're still talking about smash and grab shoplifting for the most part. It would be a giant leap.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:39 last edited by
It is Antifa talking about moving it into the suburbs.
Shoot them.
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Antifa are shitbag opportunists that need larger crowds to hide in before they start their rampages. I don't think there's serious risk of them moving this into the 'burbs. Unless tensions escalate. That would surely make it easier for them.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:39 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in 'Choot 'em!:
Antifa are shitbag opportunists that need larger crowds to hide in before they start their rampages. I don't think there's serious risk of them moving this into the 'burbs. Unless tensions escalate. That would surely make it easier for them.
Let them come to the burbs. Everyone will then have a gun even in the moderate burbs. No sanctuary here for them.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in 'Choot 'em!:
Antifa are shitbag opportunists that need larger crowds to hide in before they start their rampages. I don't think there's serious risk of them moving this into the 'burbs. Unless tensions escalate. That would surely make it easier for them.
Let them come to the burbs. Everyone will then have a gun even in the moderate burbs. No sanctuary here for them.
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@Jolly said in 'Choot 'em!:
I think the man said exactly what he meant and I concur. That community is just outside of Tampa. If the folks want to peacefully protest, they are welcome. If they want to loot and burn, they can die spitting blood.
That's a nice, clear cut binary choice.
You seem to not understand that a police officer harping so strongly on shooting people is not likely going to help a week-long, nationwide riot that started after a police officer killed somebody. It's absolutely fucking stupid and beyond tone-deaf. Let them figure it out for themselves, you don't say shit like that if you want to keep things civil. It's almost as bad as ACAB.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:04 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in 'Choot 'em!:
@Jolly said in 'Choot 'em!:
I think the man said exactly what he meant and I concur. That community is just outside of Tampa. If the folks want to peacefully protest, they are welcome. If they want to loot and burn, they can die spitting blood.
That's a nice, clear cut binary choice.
You seem to not understand that a police officer harping so strongly on shooting people is not likely going to help a week-long, nationwide riot that started after a police officer killed somebody. It's absolutely fucking stupid and beyond tone-deaf. Let them figure it out for themselves, you don't say shit like that if you want to keep things civil. It's almost as bad as ACAB.
Nope, it's something that needs to be said. At some point, enough is too much. I think civil left town a day ago...
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@Aqua-Letifer said in 'Choot 'em!:
@Jolly said in 'Choot 'em!:
I think the man said exactly what he meant and I concur. That community is just outside of Tampa. If the folks want to peacefully protest, they are welcome. If they want to loot and burn, they can die spitting blood.
That's a nice, clear cut binary choice.
You seem to not understand that a police officer harping so strongly on shooting people is not likely going to help a week-long, nationwide riot that started after a police officer killed somebody. It's absolutely fucking stupid and beyond tone-deaf. Let them figure it out for themselves, you don't say shit like that if you want to keep things civil. It's almost as bad as ACAB.
Nope, it's something that needs to be said. At some point, enough is too much. I think civil left town a day ago...
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:12 last edited by@Jolly it raises an interesting question.
I think that, in most jurisdictions, if someone comes to your property with the intent of causing harm, you have the right to use proportional, if not deadly, force to defend yourself and your property.
Does this not apply to a business that's being looted?
(asking for Larry)
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@Jolly it raises an interesting question.
I think that, in most jurisdictions, if someone comes to your property with the intent of causing harm, you have the right to use proportional, if not deadly, force to defend yourself and your property.
Does this not apply to a business that's being looted?
(asking for Larry)
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:14 last edited by@George-K said in 'Choot 'em!:
@Jolly it raises an interesting question.
I think that, in most jurisdictions, if someone comes to your property with the intent of causing harm, you have the right to use proportional, if not deadly, force to defend yourself and your property.
In our area, that's not true. A guy breaks in and goes for your TV, you can't injure him. All you're legally allowed to do is call 911. You can only defend yourself against an imminent threat.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:24 last edited by
Louisiana has Castle Doctrine.
Louisiana's Castle Doctrine In Louisiana deadly force is legal when preventing immediate death or serious bodily injury in one's home, vehicle or place of work. Non-deadly force must be deemed reasonable under the circumstances.
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@George-K said in 'Choot 'em!:
@Jolly it raises an interesting question.
I think that, in most jurisdictions, if someone comes to your property with the intent of causing harm, you have the right to use proportional, if not deadly, force to defend yourself and your property.
In our area, that's not true. A guy breaks in and goes for your TV, you can't injure him. All you're legally allowed to do is call 911. You can only defend yourself against an imminent threat.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:30 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in 'Choot 'em!:
@George-K said in 'Choot 'em!:
@Jolly it raises an interesting question.
I think that, in most jurisdictions, if someone comes to your property with the intent of causing harm, you have the right to use proportional, if not deadly, force to defend yourself and your property.
In our area, that's not true. A guy breaks in and goes for your TV, you can't injure him. All you're legally allowed to do is call 911. You can only defend yourself against an imminent threat.
A guy comes into your home or business wielding a shovel, 2X4 or baseball bat. Is that an imminent threat?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in 'Choot 'em!:
@George-K said in 'Choot 'em!:
@Jolly it raises an interesting question.
I think that, in most jurisdictions, if someone comes to your property with the intent of causing harm, you have the right to use proportional, if not deadly, force to defend yourself and your property.
In our area, that's not true. A guy breaks in and goes for your TV, you can't injure him. All you're legally allowed to do is call 911. You can only defend yourself against an imminent threat.
A guy comes into your home or business wielding a shovel, 2X4 or baseball bat. Is that an imminent threat?
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:35 last edited by@George-K said in 'Choot 'em!:
@Aqua-Letifer said in 'Choot 'em!:
@George-K said in 'Choot 'em!:
@Jolly it raises an interesting question.
I think that, in most jurisdictions, if someone comes to your property with the intent of causing harm, you have the right to use proportional, if not deadly, force to defend yourself and your property.
In our area, that's not true. A guy breaks in and goes for your TV, you can't injure him. All you're legally allowed to do is call 911. You can only defend yourself against an imminent threat.
A guy comes into your home or business wielding a shovel, 2X4 or baseball bat. Is that an imminent threat?
Only if he makes a deliberate move against you. You hit or shoot him in the side or from a long enough distance, and you can very well be prosecuted.
Crazy law.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 03:31 last edited by
If you let the average man wielding a shovel within ten feet of you and your weapon is still holstered, you stand a very good chance of being maimed or killed.
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If you let the average man wielding a shovel within ten feet of you and your weapon is still holstered, you stand a very good chance of being maimed or killed.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 03:47 last edited by@Jolly said in 'Choot 'em!:
If you let the average man wielding a shovel within ten feet of you and your weapon is still holstered, you stand a very good chance of being maimed or killed.
Yep. 20 feet for the average person with experience. So yeah, crazy law. But like my old sifu used to say, "know your local laws." His English was fine. What he meant was, know what you're getting into.