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The Ukraine war thread

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Putin talking to G20 summit:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-we-must-think-how-stop-the-tragedy-ukraine-2023-11-22/
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George K

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@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-we-must-think-how-stop-the-tragedy-ukraine-2023-11-22/

The absolute balls....
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-we-must-think-how-stop-the-tragedy-ukraine-2023-11-22/

The absolute balls....
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#1962

@George-K Nihil Putinum mihi alienum est
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@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-we-must-think-how-stop-the-tragedy-ukraine-2023-11-22/

The absolute balls....
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Renauda

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#1963

@George-K

The absolute balls....

Наглый мудак такой.
Elbows up!
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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George K

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#1965
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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George K

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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Mik

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Looks warmish.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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Renauda

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T. E. Lawrence smiled:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/24856
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T. E. Lawrence smiled:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/24856
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George K

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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

T. E. Lawrence smiled:

LOL
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Renauda

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Speaking of Lawrence, here’s Lawrence Freedman’s most recent Situation Report on the war in Ukraine:

https://samf.substack.com/p/what-should-ukraine-do-next?utm_medium=web
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Mik

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Good article, if not cheery. I think the major point is decisive victory is unlikely for either nation, but Russia's economy is so much smaller than the West's. The question is Ukrainian manpower. Weapons are important but you have to preserve the people to operate them.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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M Mik

Good article, if not cheery. I think the major point is decisive victory is unlikely for either nation, but Russia's economy is so much smaller than the West's. The question is Ukrainian manpower. Weapons are important but you have to preserve the people to operate them.
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George K

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@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

The question is Ukrainian manpower

Indeed. I've seen reports that Russia has sustained >300K casualties. Considering the size of their military, that's not crippling (except, perhaps, in public opinion).

Ukraine can't bear that kind of loss, and Russia will continue to throw troops into the grinder.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Good article, if not cheery. I think the major point is decisive victory is unlikely for either nation, but Russia's economy is so much smaller than the West's. The question is Ukrainian manpower. Weapons are important but you have to preserve the people to operate them.
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Renauda

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@Mik

This morning in a Zoom scrum between friends and former colleagues, we parsed through Freedman’s report. One of our number with considerably more experience in these matters than I, expressed his concern that he senses a growing risk of fraying in team Kyiv as to what and how to adjust strategy while at the same time maintaining the necessary messaging to manage expectations on multiple fronts and levels.

I suspect his concern is well founded.
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It's a lot to maintain that fighting spirit as the Russian onslaught, incompetent though it may be, continues to wear them down.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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Mik

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Speaking of Russian competence...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-troops-are-being-blown-up-by-their-own-minefields-because-their-leaders-won-t-say-where-they-are-ukraine-says/ar-AA1kMvEt?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d3301936c16f4c89be763761bf1b15fa&ei=115
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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George K

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#1976
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Renauda

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Yesterday T. E. Lawrence just smiled, today it’s sardonic laughter:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67593041
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Mik

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Smart. Ukraine cannot kill enough Russians to stop the war, but an ill-equipped army can't accomplish much of anything except get itself killed.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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Renauda

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More meat for the grinder….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67592803

And somehow NATO is to blame.
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George K

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1334454/russian-armed-forces-personnel/

Even if the Ukrainian claim of 300K casualties is inflated by a factor of two, it's still a big hit.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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