The Ukraine war thread
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wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 12:20 last edited by Axtremus
Russian soldiers phoned home from Ukraine.
Ukrainian police intercepted some of the calls.
The New York Times got the audio recordings, and cross checked them with other information sources.The phone calls are harrowing.
EDIT: the phone calls were made in the beginning of the war, some of them speak of taking Kyiv.
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Russian soldiers phoned home from Ukraine.
Ukrainian police intercepted some of the calls.
The New York Times got the audio recordings, and cross checked them with other information sources.The phone calls are harrowing.
EDIT: the phone calls were made in the beginning of the war, some of them speak of taking Kyiv.
wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 12:35 last edited by@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:
The phone calls are harrowing.
Behind the NYT paywall, but another source, quoting the article said that these calls were from MARCH. Can you imagine what it's like now?
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@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:
The phone calls are harrowing.
Behind the NYT paywall, but another source, quoting the article said that these calls were from MARCH. Can you imagine what it's like now?
wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 12:38 last edited by@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:
The phone calls are harrowing.
Behind the NYT paywall, but another source, quoting the article said that these calls were from MARCH. Can you imagine what it's like now?
Yes, indeed those phone calls were from the early part of the war.
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wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 12:38 last edited by
If you are on Edge you can read it in reader mode.
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Latest word is that Putin plans to deliver (another) speech on Sept 30. On that occasion, he will announce the results of the (cough) referendum in the Eastern states, and therefore justification for annexation of those areas.
Once those are part of "Russia," escalation, either by more mobilization or by use of different weaponry will be on the table. After all, the Motherland is being attacked, dontcha know.
wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 12:48 last edited by@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Latest word is that Putin plans to deliver (another) speech on Sept 30. On that occasion, he will announce the results of the (cough) referendum in the Eastern states, and therefore justification for annexation of those areas.
Once those are part of "Russia," escalation, either by more mobilization or by use of different weaponry will be on the table. After all, the Motherland is being attacked, dontcha know.
Kremlin says Putin will sign ‘treaties’ to annex Ukrainian regions
The move, in defiance of stern international warnings including from President Biden, potentially slams the door on diplomacy for years to come, and almost certainly assures further escalation of the war in Ukraine, with Kyiv insisting it will fight to reclaim all of its lands and Western allies promising to send more weapons and economic assistance.
Putin’s recent declaration of a partial military mobilization, intended to activate hundreds of thousands of reinforcements for deployment to Ukraine, and the sabotage this week of two Nord Stream natural gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea have raised fears that the Russian leader is readying for a long hybrid conflict with NATO. Russian officials have also warned that it could use a nuclear weapon to defend the Ukrainian territories once they are absorbed into Russia.>
Putin’s move, which is a blatant violation of international law, will further isolate Russia, triggering new Western sanctions. But Putin nonetheless appears to hope that a long, brutal war will eventually fray Western support for Ukraine and curtail military and economic aid that is providing a lifeline to Kyiv. -
wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 12:58 last edited by
I said earlier I thought we should take in some Ukranian refugees.
Should we take in some Russian ones, also?
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wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 18:17 last edited by
On Joe Rogan, Dave Smith talks about why Russia invaded Ukraine.
I have no idea who Smith is, by the way.
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wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 20:46 last edited by
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wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 22:32 last edited by Renauda
Yes, the risk is high that Putin will deploy one or more tactical nukes. Tomorrow’s annexation of Ukrainian territory will provide the convenient rationale.
The US and NATO will respond accordingly should a Russian nuclear demonstration occur. The Cold War doctrine of Flexible Response will determine the actions of the Alliance.
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Yes, the risk is high that Putin will deploy one or more tactical nukes. Tomorrow’s annexation of Ukrainian territory will provide the convenient rationale.
The US and NATO will respond accordingly should a Russian nuclear demonstration occur. The Cold War doctrine of Flexible Response will determine the actions of the Alliance.
wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 22:45 last edited by@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
Yes, the risk is high that Putin will deploy one or more tactical nukes. Tomorrow’s annexation of Ukrainian territory will provide the convenient rationale.
The US and NATO will respond accordingly should a Russian nuclear demonstration occur. The Cold War doctrine of Flexible Response will determine the actions of the Alliance.
Dumbest thing he could do.
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
Yes, the risk is high that Putin will deploy one or more tactical nukes. Tomorrow’s annexation of Ukrainian territory will provide the convenient rationale.
The US and NATO will respond accordingly should a Russian nuclear demonstration occur. The Cold War doctrine of Flexible Response will determine the actions of the Alliance.
Dumbest thing he could do.
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wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 22:50 last edited by
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wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 22:53 last edited by
"Syria, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela are all staying silent"
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wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 23:58 last edited by
Putin always chooses escalation:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/29/putin-always-chooses-escalation-a78923
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wrote on 30 Sept 2022, 00:06 last edited by
There's been a fair amount of reporting of Russian casualties - KIA, wounded and others.
I haven't seen much about Ukrainian losses lately. Last time I saw anything, there was supposedly a 1:3 ratio between the two forces.
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wrote on 30 Sept 2022, 12:34 last edited by
Putin speaks (live):
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wrote on 30 Sept 2022, 13:52 last edited by
Wonder what was able to be salvaged from all the abandoned or disabled Russian stuff?
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wrote on 30 Sept 2022, 13:58 last edited by
Ah, the John Deere Brigade...
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Putin always chooses escalation:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/29/putin-always-chooses-escalation-a78923
wrote on 30 Sept 2022, 17:32 last edited by@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
Putin always chooses escalation:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/29/putin-always-chooses-escalation-a78923
He's just a little guy.